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Enterprise Vault support for Exchange Server, SharePoint Server and Office 2013

Created: 26 Jul 2012 • Updated: 20 Jan 2013 • 22 comments
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** Update

Enterprise Vault 10.0.3 is available from today. See announcement here: https://www-secure.symantec.com/connect/blogs/enterprise-vault-1003-reaches-general-availability

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As you have all no doubt seen, Microsoft have recently lifted the lid on its next version releases for Exchange Server, SharePoint Server and Office products. With preview software hitting the streets earlier this month we have heard from lots of our customers asking when we plan to support these releases and in which version.

We have been participating in the partner Technology Adoption Program (TAP) for these products for some while now and progress has been going well.

Therefore to answer this question simply we are planning an Enterprise Vault 10 service pack release which will support all of these new versions of Exchange Server, SharePoint Server and Office.

This release will be planned to land within 90 days of MS making these products available. While I am not at liberty to communicate any plans around MS general availability plans I can assure you that once made public we will be putting the wheels in motions to ensure support is gained in the shortest possible timeframe. I have a good feeling that we'll be surprising a few of you with our speed to market with this support.

If there are any questions around this or you have plans to adopt Wave 2013 immediately then feel free to reply to this post or email me directly: alex_brown@symantec.com

 

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LCT's picture

Hi Alex,

I have Exchange 2013 Preview in full swing (Internal, external, DAG, via TMG 2010 etc.), been working on it for the last couple weeks (still quite a lot of bugs :-) no surprises there) and on Windows 2012 RC since it got released. Would like to do testing with EV when it's available for testing, that would be great!!!

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Alex Brown's picture

Great, thanks for the info. I'll make sure I keep you updated with our progress on this.

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Dushan Gomez's picture

Thanks for the article, so how's this compare to the builtin Exchange Server archival feature ?

Dushan Gomez
IT Manager
VCP 4 and 5 | MCITP Exchange Server | MCTS SharePoint Server | MCP Windows XP

 

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Alex Brown's picture

Much of the value Enterprise Vault can add to any Exchange implementation remains the same even with this latest release. We'll be releasing information around this a little nearer to the time of launch. I'll make sure I post back here once it is available.

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Dushan Gomez's picture

Sure Alex,

Let us know how you go with it then :-)

Dushan Gomez
IT Manager
VCP 4 and 5 | MCITP Exchange Server | MCTS SharePoint Server | MCP Windows XP

 

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captain jack sparrow's picture

Thanx a ton for info. Have started evaluating new features introduced with MS 2013 family.

Would love to engage ourself in Wave 2013. Is this program open now or is slated at later date.  (i can book my calender ;-)

 

 Cheers !!!

CJS

 

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Alex Brown's picture

The Exchange and Office previews are available for you to evaluate right now however at present there is no EV equivilent preview. I'll make sure I post back here should we decide to run an EV preview with this functionality.

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captain jack sparrow's picture

Thanx for an update.

 Cheers !!!

CJS

 

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Jens Sanft's picture

Would be great if there will be a First Availability Program like it has been for EV9 with the support for Exchange 2010.

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Alex Brown's picture

We are working on that and I'll post back here with any news surrounding early access to code.

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MortenMadsen's picture

Alex what about support for Windows Server 2012 used as a fileserver (FSA)?

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Alex Brown's picture

At the moment we are planning support for Windows Server 2012 (as an archiving target) in the same 10 service pack as Exchange 2013 support. Per my original post the timeframe for release is still not available.

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CuriousGeorge's picture

We too are evaluating Office 2013 Preview and immediately ran into the lack of EV support on the client end to be a significant roadblock. I would love to know if a preview version of the EV client for Outlook 2013 becomes available.

Honestly I am surprised and dissapointed that the current EV version doesn't "just work" with Outlook 2013. I am sure the underpinnings of Outlook are very much the same as many of my other Outlook plugins work fine. It seems as if EV is just blocking the install as a protective measure. Overly cautious if you ask me as this keeps people such as myself from seeing if EV works woth Outlook 2013. I would of course recognize that since Outlook 2013 is a 'Preview' that I could expect some issues with EV if it ran.

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LCT's picture

"Honestly I am surprised and dissapointed that the current EV version doesn't "just work" with Outlook 2013."....

LOL...Symantec is not a Miracle Maker company!!!!!!

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CuriousGeorge's picture

But I don't think there are any miracles needed here. Their installer blocks anything but the versions of Office that were released at the time. They simply need to allow it to try and install in a newer version of Office. My bet is that it would work fine.

The same issue exists for apps and versions of Windows. Many app developers take the approach of only allowing their apps to install on known versions of the OS. This approach blocks ALL possibility of it ever working in the next version of the OS until they release a new version of their app, even though vendors such as Microsoft make their OS's amazingly backwards compatible.

I find this approach frustrating when in the vast majority of cases it would just work if the apps allowed it.

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LCT's picture

CuriousGeorge,

Do you actually understand how the process of app developing works?

In this instance:

1. Outlook 2013, Windows 8, Windows 2012 and Exchange 2013 are in Preview state still, do you think MS will release it's SDK code developing to other app developing house to integrate with? I don't think they do.

2. You can't expect app developing companies such as Symantec to integrate EV with Outlook 2013 or exchange 2013 or Windows 8 and Windows 2012 etc. at this stage. All of these products are still in development with Microsoft. What you expecting Symantec to do is work in the future i.e. integrate with EV with software that don't even exist or in the process of developing? If you do then I am very disappointed that you are working in the IT industry.

How do you write an app to allow it to install or integrate on an OS that does not exist?

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CuriousGeorge's picture

Actually I am a very experienced software developer. I don't want to turn this into an argument, which your tone implies, but I really think you are missing my point, and frankly are misinformed yourself.

Microsoft is well known for their incredible ability to make their products backwards compatible, to their great credit and sometimes to a fault (they are at times hobbled in their ability to innovate by their desire to be so backwards compatible). I can't speak for Apple so let's make this a strictly Windows-based discussion.

Given this, the chances of an existing app or plugin working in a future version of an OS or successfully integrating with a future version of an app such as Office are VERY HIGH (I can't emphasize this enough). However when companies or developers build in a check for the highest version of an OS or App that they support and block installs from working with newer versions then they have effectively made the chances of their app working ZERO PERCENT (again heavy emphasis). If they merely built in a check for the minimum version they support (and I understand the reasons for this) then they have given their app at least some chance of working with a future OS/App, and I would argue again a VERY HIGH chance.

I see this happen time and time again and it drives me nuts. Microsoft has even taken to not incrementing the major version number of Windows internally to try and combat this well known very poor decision by many companies and developers. (Vista was version 6.0, Win7 was 6.1 and Win8 is 6.2, not 6, 7, and 8 as you would expect).

Yes even Microsoft sometimes changes directions or starts fresh and breaks old apps/plugins, so their are chances your app may not work in a future OS/App. But why not give it a fighting chance instead of completely hobbling it? This is my point.

To your specific points from above:

1) You are simply wrong on this. Microsoft generally makes SDKs available in preview form at the same time they release preview OS's and Apps. Sure there are exceptions, but they are just that, exceptions.

2) Agreed. I don't expect developers to have versions ready for forthcoming versions of an OS or App that utilize new features of said OS/App. We are on the same page here. But if they hobble their existing apps as discussed above then their users are completely stuck if they want to move to a new OS/App as soon as it is released, or experiment with a preview. This is entirely my point.

So let me temper this whole discussion with one last point. I do realize there are certain classifications of software that have a harder time in this realm. Drivers and low level apps such as virus scanners and their ilk all integrate at such a low level that their chances of working with a future OS are considerably lower.

But we are not talking about this type of app here. EV is a plug-in to Outlook and as long as the programmatic interface to Outlook 2013 has not changed in a way that would break EV (which I very much doubt) then I am arguing that the current version of the EV plugin has a VERY HIGH chance of working with Outlook 2013. However if the installer blocks versions of Outlook higher than it is aware of it has ZERO CHANCE of working. Frustrating customers such as myself to no end.

'Nuff said. I hope you can see my point.

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captain jack sparrow's picture

it did worked for me.. we have ev 9.0.2 and office 2013

it worked without any lag or any errors.... i tried installing ev 10.0.1 but as our ev was at 9.0.2 so it didn't  worked.

 Cheers !!!

CJS

 

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CuriousGeorge's picture

So are you saying that the EV plugin version 9.0.2 allows you to install with Office 2013? Did it actually install fresh or did you upgrade Office and the existing installed version of EV was carried forward and works with Outlokk 2013?

In my case I have completely repaved my laptop with Windows 8 and Office 2013 and now want to get EV installed, but the version of the EV plugin we have (I think 10.something) complains about the version of Office and refuses to install.

I'd appreciate any clarification you can give me.

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captain jack sparrow's picture

i'm on WIndows 7 Pro x64 SP1

I'd O2k10 pro plus installed, with ev 9.0.2   client.

As soon o2k13 released (preview) i got it upgraded and till date it is working without any issues

I'd sayd Sym wins over ;-)

But as LCT mentioned, we should wait till MS releases GA of both i guess it would be slated in next 2 quarteres or by 2013

 Cheers !!!

CJS

 

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John Santana's picture

thanks guys for the clarification and this informatiove application.

Kind regards,

John Santana
IT Professional

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Please be nice to me as I'm newbie in this forum.

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