Altiris ITMS 7.1 Beta
Updated: 13 Oct 2010 | 101 comments
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Beta for CMS, SMS, CMS will begin later this summer
Watch for details coming shortly on the start of the beta.
Andy
Andy Taylor Manager Program Management Beta, EOOC Symantec
10x a lot!
waiting for SMS/CMS...
What about SWV Beta?
Preview of features?
Andy,
Is there any way to get a short preview list of features that are being addressed in CMS 7.1? Also, how soon after CMS 7.1 will AMS 7.1 be previewed?
Benjamin Palmer
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Main Features addressed in 7.1
While not a complete list, here are some of the main features to be addressed in CMS/SMS/AMS 7.1
Support for 64-Bit OS
Improved Hierarchy Support for the Solutions
Improved Usability Support for Solutions
Support for Win7 and Server 2008 for all of the Solutions
Again, not an exhaustive list but these are the main areas for improvement.
Andy
Andy Taylor Manager Program Management Beta, EOOC Symantec
CMS 7.1 BETA
Do you have any info on the release date?
Release Date for 7.1
The release date is set for the end of the Summer 2010 at this point. We should have a more solid date for the beta soon.
-Andy
Andy Taylor Manager Program Management Beta, EOOC Symantec
Windows 7
Going out on a limb and sounding dumb, but I was under the impression that CMS 7.0 SP2 already had support for all solutions for Win7 at least that is what I take away from the CMS 7 SP Platform Support Matrix (KB46349: https://kb.altiris.com/display/1n/articleDirect/index.asp?aid=46349&r=0.9763605)
here the good link...
https://kb.altiris.com/article.asp?article=46349&p=1
You are right: Most our problem client support x64 are resolved with SP2 CMS7.0.
CMS 7.1 Will be more important for:
- Install Altiris on a server x64 support: eg. To be able to host CMS7+SD7 on the same server (But, that is not a good idea I think)
- SQL 2008 support
- Better performance ??? I hope so !
;-)
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SMP Support
Yes, you are correct, that doc points out the support for the Symantec Management Platform, which is the NS. I am referring to the rest of the Solutions having full support for the items above. Does that make sense?
Andy
Andy Taylor Manager Program Management Beta, EOOC Symantec
Core & Solutions
Yes it makes sense. I think some some of the differentiators that needs to be made clear is that this is for the solutions NOT the core.
Both CMS, AMS etc. follow their own update schedules.
The core platform follows it own update schedule.
Each can have support for Win 7 independently of the other but the core must support the platform first before the solution can. That has always been my understanding.
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Andy, there was an earlier
Andy, there was an earlier usability survey which asked what we thought of 7.1 only being available for Windows Server 2008 R2. Is this a planned direction for this release?
MSFT and Windows Server 2003
Yes, that is the direction for the ITMS Suite of products. MSFT is walking away from Server 2003 support, so we will follow that same direction. Good Question.
-Andy
Andy Taylor Manager Program Management Beta, EOOC Symantec
5 weeks and four score ago...
Is the CMS 7.1 Beta any closer to being released?
I have a mob of angry souls that are not happy when I recommend the custting edge capabilties of Windows Server 2003 running NS 7
David Clapp
Security Practice Leader
Core BTS
Latest date...
The earliest date I have heard is Q4 of 2010 (production release)... Which means anywhere between October & December...
@David... How do they feel when you tell them that 7.1 can be installed on W2K8 64bit only?
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How do they feel
"How do they feel when you tell them that 7.1 can be installed on W2K8 64bit only?"
Yeah, that doesn't help impress them right now...."now" being the emphasis.
David Clapp
Security Practice Leader
Core BTS
Details?
I'm very interested in the a bit more details about this statement "Improved Hierarchy Support for the Solutions"? Any focus on improved performance and or better real-time up and down replication? any additional details would also be a big plus.
Joe Sa
Staples, Inc.
Retail IS Technical Services
Systems Engineering/Operations Consultant
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Joe Sa
Staples, Inc.
Retail IS Technical Services
Systems Engineering/Operations Consultant
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Final Release for CMS 7.1
Andy, since the beta for CMS 7.1 is due out in September how long will it be open for and do you have an estimated time of when the final product would be released?
Migration Tools?
At Manage Fusion 2009 the talk about version 7 and the transition time seemed appealing to start using 7 instead of 6.x. While I am glad about the upcoming release, it has been a painful year using a mix of NS7 and DS6.9.
I am ecstatic about the Win2k8/64 bit support on the NS, but I would like to see the same effort on the client portion with clear reporting on which plugins are 32bit and which are 64.
Finally, does anyone have a flowchart of the migration process for the NS? Going from 32 bit Win2k3 to 64 bit Win2k8 on the NS already does not seem to bode well with respect to workflow. To keep operations up, I suspect a second box would be running side-by-side? Are there any draft documents that can be customer reviewed that describes the process?
superb, this will help me decide on whether to hold off on my migration further! fingers crossed :)
Dowload beta where?
Dumb question perhaps..I was under the impression that one could download the beta and install/test it; however, I see no way to do this...can someone please point me in the right direction?
Panic now and avoid the rush...
Zenbu,
The beta will be available in the September 2010 time-frame. Please watch for it at that time.
Thanks,
Susan Keller
Endpoint Management Beta
Sheez...
Talk about wetting the appetite! :-p
anxiously await
For beta release CMS 7.1
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Internet manageability
will Internet manageability and agent trust be part of the version as they communicated before ? or is it time to move to SCCM?
It's done in the management platform but testing to certify the initially targeted products (Inventory, Software Management, and Patch) will extend beyond the release. Plan is to finish testing these three products in Internet facing configurations for several weeks post release and, if results are good, issue a support statement at that time.
Migration/Upgrade Path from 7.0?
Bryan,
Has there been any further progress on what the migration path & upgrade process will look like for an already existing 7.0 platform? In speaking with Alex Ferguson, there still was no clear plan in place. I am told that there are some DB schema changes but to what extent is still unknown.
For anyone currently in a project to upgrade to 7.0, not knowing this could drastically affect project timelines or completely halt projects until such time as 7.1 is fully released.
I believe the major concern is the single OS support for W2K8 64bit only. And since the current platform either 6.x or 7 does not support that platform what will be the recommended actions to move to 7.1?
I see swing servers neededing to be in place as the only option i norder to rebuild the OS. Any other thoughts?
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The migration/upgrade path from 7.0 - 7.1 does require a new Notification Server installation as a result of moving to 64bit. That also means that the 2008 R2 server must be installed on the Notification Server. However, the 7.0 database does not need to be 'migrated'. Once the new 64bit OS is installed, the NS 7.1 installation gives the option of selecting a database. Here you reconnect to the 7.0 database and any table updates are performed by the installation. That is a basic summary of the migration. I'm working directly with QA and the Doc team to validate all the details and document them to provide best practices. We expect to have a draft in October. In the meantime, I hope the high level description of the migration is helpful.
Exactly what I was hoping for. Thanks!
Still true on Oct 13th ?
Hi Sean, is your 7/27 post still accurate ?
With 7.1 pushing to later next year, I think people who have been waiting to migrate may just go ahead and jump to 7.0.
So, if they do I just want to be sure of the path to 7.1 for later on.
Thank you.
FF
ExpressAbility
Frank Fleming - Director
www.expressability.com
Upgrade = Server Rebuild
The only upgrade path from 7.0 to 7.1 will need to be a full server rebuild from your current OS platform to Windows Server 2008 R2 since that is the only supported platform for ITMS 7.1
Hopefully your SQL & databases are off-box as to not further complicate the rebuild.
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ITMS 7.1 - Deployment Console win32
We use Altiris Deployment Solution 6.9 sp4 and see, that this software is limit to manage Windows 7.
I have downloaded the Deployment Solution 7.1 and never find the win32 Deployment Console.
This win32 Deployment Console is our firt tool in our organisation.
Can anybody help me to find the win32 Deployment Console in the version 7.x of Symantec Software?
Many thanks,
Hubert
Hi Hubert
There is no win32 console in DS 7.1.
There is only a webconsole in DS 7.1
Regards
Stephan
Direction moving forward...
Just to add some more information to this response...
In Deployment Solution the "console" as stated is based within the full Symantec Mangement Platform framework and it built on a Silverlight interface. It is as responsive as the Win32 console was and provides the same features but within a browser session now.
In fact all "consoles" such as Patch & SW Management will have similar console structures for future releases. This was kind of hinted to at Manage Fusion.
It is a very nice direction and hopefully the other product teams such as DLP & SEP will inegrate at some point using this same coding instead of just the connector solutions.
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Yes, I confirm a Nice Direction
Hi, I confirm a nice direction. Just hope we can get a goal also, not only a direction...
It is very nice, but for those who try to make the DS 7.1 working, in automation for PXE... I just wonder what it would be, if it was a "beta" version.
I was testing a CMS 7.0 beta version in a real better "state". I suppose a lot of pressure to release the PXE feature, can explain Symantec release a "bad" Beta as a final product for this DS 7.1.
Hope Q&A department will make some strongest reviews, before next final launch CMS 7.1
But YES, it is a true real nice direction. The DS 7.1 can really benefits of the CMDB, all the Software/Package/Programs components already in the Notification server, reuse all NS7 (SMP7) defined Computers Groups (and hope filters also, I should verify this!)
I just wonder if we must wait the 7.3 to get enough Quality/Reliability/Performance/Ergonomy ? But we can allways do better, and in a 1st step, just take care to make better the competitors. (or less worst :)
Keep on the run, and my best Whishes ;-)
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Hi Sephan
Many thanks for your response of me e-mail. So I'm sure that I want open my eyes to discover an another solution as Symantec Deployment Solution 7.1
Kind regards,
Hubi
Salut Hubert
I suggest you keep DS 6.9 for the moment, a SP5 will come soon. See my post above.
And be sure this DS 6.9 solution will still available on 2011, also in 2012 as I said: Too much OEM interest.
But I am also pretty sure as soon as the 7.x version get enough mature, we will all quickly switch the 7th version. Just to avoid the double job creation works on NS(SMP) + DS6.9.
Full any hardware OSD from a single image, will begin a quick & simple task in the near future (and now in fact), not any more the "heavy part".
The "heavy part" we try to reduce now, that is the "packaging", and we research & work in all directions:
Any direction or Ideas to reduce the time/cost & the risk associated software deploy & life cycle. And software management + ITIL/Service Desk + Workflow are good tools for. As soon as they will be mature enough for being use in small/medium size companies (50 to 5000 terminals). We are not so far this.
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Altiris product
Hi Every one ,
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Hey everyone, just saw a
Hey everyone, just saw a group was created for the ITMS 7.1 beta. Look in the beta group area to join!
ITMS 7.1 Beta group
Powellbc...I don't see it, can you post the link?
Sure, look
Sure, look here:
https://www-secure.symantec.com/connect/ogproduct/itms-71-hampton-beta
Excellent, thank you!
Excellent, thank you!
System Requirements
Any idea on system requirements for CMS 7.1 Beta? I want to be ready to go!
Andres Ochoa
Altiris Certifed Engineer CMS II 6.5
Symantec Certified Specialist CMS 7.1
Yes, for sure
Windows 2008 R2, SQL 2008 + 8 GB RAM, minimum ! Good disk also !
Ok I don't know yet - But it is not difficult to guess it ;-)
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7.1 Requirements...
Notification Server
Operating System:
Windows Server 2008 R2
Virtual Hosts:
VMWare ESX 3.5 or 4.0
Windows Hyper-V Server 2008 R2
Microsoft .NET:
3.5 SP1
Microsoft SQL Server
SQL Server 2005 SP2 or SP3
SQL Server 2008 or SP1 or R2
Console/Browser
Microsoft Internet Explorer 7 or 8
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The Windows server for the NS
The Windows server for the NS has to be x64, correct?
Correct.
The new NS will support ONLY Windows Server 2008 R2 as the OS it can be installed onto.
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How much RAM?
Can you confirm how much RAM will be needed as a minimum? I need to know if my lab box is going to need an upgrade :-)
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Server specs...
Recommended server specs for supporting my environment are...
OS: Windows Server 2008 R2
CPU: 4 Cores (2 CPU/2 Cores)
RAM: 16GB
SQL: Off-box, dedicated MS SQL CLuster
This is a single client facing NS supporting 10K nodes with capacity & scalability for addtional/future nodes. Specific memory requirements are determined by how many clients you will be supproting to its tough to provide exact numbers. I believe the minimum would be 4GB.
If you will be using a central mgmt or reporting server then your memory requirements will need to also scale as necessary.
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How do you sign up for the
How do you sign up for the beta group?
For sing up the beta group..
https://www-secure.symantec.com/connect/blogs/new-home-altiris-beta-portal
SSL Required
Are the solutions going to fully support SSL?
Sure no Problem with SSL
As the previous NS6 works very well using SSL, I don't think this will resign.
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SSL is broken on some things
SSL is broken on some things with version 7. For instance, clients that boot to WinPE will not authenticated to DS7 if SSL is required for all sites in IIS. Backup Exec System Recovery 2010 Management Soltion constantly trys to send things over none secured channels causing popups with that warning.
Hallo There, Does anyone know
Hallo There,
Does anyone know when the beta of "Altiris Client Management Suite 7.1" will come??
It's now almost end of september.
Greetz,
Applicatieteam.
7 am LA time today I hope
If that's what the time on the heading is for.
7:30 came and passed,
7:30 came and passed, symantec s now running on altiris time,
i was going to mention something abut next years Vegas event but thought that would be an underhanded comment
how do I download the beta ?
how do I download the beta ?
I think it will be published
I think it will be published here:
https://www-secure.symantec.com/connect/endpoint-m...
That's where the DS for Solaris beta was listed.
I would assume it will be
I would assume it will be here when available: https://www-secure.symantec.com/connect/ogproduct/itms-71-hampton-beta
Beta Downloads
Is this the only beta thats coming up? Or where's the listing of other beta's....
I found this:
https://www-secure.symantec.com/connect/endpoint-m...
October 13th
Symantec have just informed me that the Beta will now be released on 13th October.
Will there be an upgrade path
Will there be an upgrade path FROM the BETA to RTM if we install the beta?
Very unlikely
I wouldn't trust it if there was.
Me too ;-)
And be sure, you will have a clear "20 pages" EULA text you will confirm READING all, to explain you should never install this BETA for a real production... !! LOL
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No upgrade from BETA to RTM
From my understandings there isn't an upgrade path from BETA code to RTM release. The reason is because code fixes etc are implemented in various builds of the beta code with each release. In previous beta's each release required a fresh install of the products, you couldn't just update from beta1 to beta2 for example.
There is at some point in the code release structure that Symantec's code will be supported by engineering. I believe this is at the Release Candidate (RC) stage. At this point there is code lock down unless a widescale flaw/bug is found. If nothing is found this same code goes to RTM and then becomes GA within 7 to 10 days.
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We hope that they release it
We hope that they release it on that date. We are waiting for this, so we can test if it will be faster.
So let's hope that will release it on that date.
New beta date is for October
New beta date is for October 13, 2010. Thank you for your patience.
Susan Keller
Please register for the
Please register for the Altiris ITMS 7.1 Beta at https://www-secure.symantec.com/connect/ogproduct/itms-71-hampton-beta
Please confirm CMS or ITMS?
I initially understood this to be a CMS 7.1 beta release, but i see it refers to ITMS 7.1.....does this mean it will include the Service Desk 7.1 beta as well at Asset Management?
If it 'does', then i'm getting drunk on excitement! :-p
nice remark ;) is there
nice remark ;)
is there already any list of solutions included in this beta release of ITMS 7.1?
Hi Guys, Anyone know if
Hi Guys,
Anyone know if this is going to include Service Desk 7.1 tomorrow? Or just CMS 7.1?
Yes, ITMS will include
Yes, ITMS will include Service Desk.
And so ?
OK guys, here we are 13th !!! Where the download ???
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whereisitwhereisitwhereisitwh
whereisitwhereisitwhereisitwhereisitwhereisitwhereisitwhereisit??!!!!
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5:30pm PST
if you read in the notes I think it said 5:30pm PST and then start to replicate out to the servers?
Jonathan Jesse Practice Principal ITS Partners
Be patient...
Isn't its due 5:00 PM Mountain Dailight Time? = 1 AM tomorrow morning in our timezone.
Haha, lots of people
Haha, lots of people speculating and saying "I think" instead of reading the top of the page. It's due 0700 L.A time, 15 mins ago. Personally I was fully expecting another few months delay so I'lll hang tight! ;)
5pm Mountain Time. Thanks for
5pm Mountain Time. Thanks for your patience.
5 PM Denver (MST) is 7 PM EST
5 PM Denver (MST) is 7 PM EST so I guess that means I have to wait a.whole.nother.day.
:-(
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It's like waiting for concert
It's like waiting for concert cards. :-)
I will be awake all the night until 1 o'clock CET.
While we wait...ManageThis!
While we wait I think they should post some video footage of the ManageThis! band playing...
David Clapp
Security Practice Leader
Core BTS
Perhaps this will amuse you
Perhaps this will amuse you in the meantime?
http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/
Some ManageThis links would be fantastic. I already chewed all my nails off.
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And one more to finish off
And one more to finish off 100 points. :-)
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ehy ready to go!!
waiting for the beta ;)
server is ready
where do we download it?
what jmankin said.
:-)
The beta is now live.
The beta is now live.
The link can be found here:
https://www-secure.symantec.com/connect/blogs/itms-71-beta-now-available
Hi Everyone,I've read some
Hi Everyone,
I've read some post where users were talked about an issue during the installation with the Install Readness Check that didn't allow to begin the installation.
Without disable the check for SIM prerequisites, this can be due to the fact that your server cannot connect to external network, just try to verify that server can connect outside and in case sets your proxy into the control panel> internet options>Connections>Lan settings,
you will see the installation pass the SIM checks like a charm.
I hope this can help someone out there.
Thanks.
Michele Ferrari
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