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CAN GUP IN DIFFTENT GROUP UPDATE CLIENT

Updated: 21 May 2010 | 26 comments
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Can GUP in diffrent Group update the clients.........?

If I put all my GUPS in diffrent Group will it update my clients..........?

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Quick Answers...

Hi Hemu,

Check the Following KB which answers all your Questions:

Symantec Endpoint Protection 11.0 Group Update Provider (GUP)

http://service1.symantec.com/support/ent-security.nsf/854fa02b4f5013678825731a007d06af/184f7ebb04cd173480257363006d2beb?OpenDocument

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CAN GUP IN DIFFTENT GROUP UPDATE CLIENT

Hi,

       As far as your question goes "Can GUP in diffrent Group update the clients.........?" If the Live update policy is the same for the group it can be done else it cannot. Please check the following links and let us know in case you require further help.

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ent-security....

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ent-security....

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ent-security....

Thanks & Regards Sandip C Sali

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Dear mithun, No ans of my

Dear mithun,

No ans of my quation is not ther in this KB

Please help me as we have more then 1800 GUPS.......

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Please help to understand

Please help to understand what do u min by same live update police ..........?

police number will be diff for diff group..........

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GUPs are defined by LiveUpdate policy

Hemu,

GUPs are defined by LiveUpdate policy. With policy inheritance a single LiveUpdate policy can be appliced to multiple groups, and if that is the case then multiple groups will be using the defined GUP in that policy. Does that make more sense?

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u want say that to creat new

u want say that to creat new live update police and applie to both group

Group A :- GUPs

Group B:- Clients........

One more quation....

If i do this way i can't put my all GUPS in one group..........

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only if Group A, B, the GUPs

only if Group A, B, the GUPs group, and any other group that the GUPs are going to manage are all inherited by the same set of policies.

For example,  a group setup may look like this:

My Company
       |_ Temporary
       |_ Workstations
       |_ Servers

If all groups except the servers group have policy inheritance turned on, and the have the LiveUpdate policy with the assigned GUP applied to them, then all groups will update to that GUP except for the computers in the Servers group. And this will work fine.

As another example:

My Company
       |_ Temporary
       |_ Workstations
                |_  Location 1
                |_  Location 2
       |_ Servers
                |_  Location 1
                |_  Location 2

This setup doesn't work quite the same as you'll have different gups managing different locations so inheritance doesn't work the same. You'll have to turn off policy inheritance on the groups and manually apply the LiveUpdate policy to what groups you want it applied to so that each individual group has the proper LiveUpdate policy.

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I think u can. You mean you

I think u can. You mean you are making a PC as GUP which is not the part of that group
Am I right?

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aravind1984 right......... i

aravind1984

right.........
i have 1600 sub group

i want to move my all 1600 GUP in one group to maintain it properly........

 

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Dear Cass, exmp 1 If group is

Dear Cass,

exmp 1

If group is in inheritance how can i assign GUP to workstation group............?

emp 2 is perfect and that is what happning in my n/w rt now......wnat to chage this..........

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For example 1 you would just

For example 1 you would just apply the policy at the My Company level as the other groups have policy inheritance turned on so they would all take the My Company's policies.

For exmaple 2 you would go into the Policies tab in the SEPM, create the policy, once the policy is created you would right-click on the policy and click 'apply' and then choose the groups you wish to apply the policy to. From here you would choose your groups (location1 or location 2 according to the example) you wish to apply the policy to. You will want to be sure these groups have policy ineritance turned OFF.

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Dear Cass i have 1600

Dear Cass

i have 1600 GUPS........

and 57000 clients.........

if i creats police on mycompany for live update i have to creat 1600 diff polcies for 1600 group.......

and then i can assen them to group.......

please suggest.......

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That is correct, each GUP has

That is correct, each GUP has to have a policy created for it.

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If u want to apply different

If u want to apply different groups for each group u have to remove inheritance .Then you have to create individual live update policy for each group and you have to specify which pc is is your GUP PC for that group. If this is the style you are going to adopt I will recommend non shared policy because if we go for shared policy for creating and editing we have to waste a lot of time and in such a setup which is having such a big no of groups it may create confusions also

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hmmmmmmmmm i think i have to

hmmmmmmmmm

i think i have to do this but i think this will effect my SEPM performance

let me discus this with my AVP and symantec support..........

ill do this 2mrrow...

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thnx all for support will get

thnx all for support

will get back to u 2mrrow...........

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Hi Hemu, If you are palnning

Hi Hemu,

If you are palnning to move all the 1600 GUP's in one group I dont think you will be able to use the GUPs to update all the clients in other 1600 groups.

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hi kavin it is realy deficult

hi kavin

it is realy deficult for me and my team to mantain GUP as SEPM dont have GUP reporting.............

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I think it is better to check

I think it is better to check with a few groups first and if it works you can implement to all. In fact it should work.

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MR5 has a lot of GUP

MR5 has a lot of GUP enhancements including the ability to set GUP's based on wildcard rules (* and ?).
Eg. any machine with the name SRV****01 will become a GUP.
So SRVASIA01, SRVAUST01, etc.

You can also set a GUP based on the existence of a registry key, so you could just send a reg key out to all systems you want as GUP's.
Or even set the GUP based on operating system type, so all windows servers would become GUP's.
All of these can also be combined in and AND/OR fashion.

SEP clients will then download the master GUP list and choose the GUP on their own subnet.

MR5 is due in september some time...

cheers

Z

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I think GUP is just a content

I think GUP is just a content cache.. whether it is in same group or some other group it should be able to server the client....
Its the policy on the clients which decides whom to contact manager or GUP. When GUP gets the request it download the x delta updates from manager it is pointing to and serves it to the clients.
 

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Internet link is slow.. clicked "save" multiple times....

Internet link is slow.. clicked "save" multiple times....
Sorry...
Can I or any Admin delete this.....
Is there any way to avoid this kind of multiple same entries... ?
 

Regards,
Srinivas H.P.
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Hi, can I set schedule

Hi, can I set schedule wherein the GUP will get update from SEPM...let's say this GUP will get update at 4:00 AM? Base on my observation the GUP client update kicks in when there is client requesting update from GUP. Also, the SharedUpdate content started to populate when there is client requesting for update. Can we set schedule to both of this? Thanks!

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Jerry, The GUP is still a

Jerry,

The GUP is still a client, and all clients request updates on the heartbeat (with the exception of if  they are scheduled to access the LiveUpdate servers online via a schedule). You can set the heartbeat interval (ie. every 5 minutes, 30 minutes, 8 hours, etc), but outside of that you do not set a schedule for the heartbeat. The client will heartbeat in on the set interval, on bootup, when the services are restarted, or on command through the GUI.

the SharedUpdate conent will populate when clients request for an update. Clients request for updates from the GUP on the same schedule as above, but because of the LiveUpdate policy identified above, instead of requesting the definitions from the SEPM itself, they request them from the GUP. So no, there is no set schedule outside of a minute/hour interval you can set via the heartbeat.

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The group can have the same

The group can have the same LU policy applied to it - this way, YES even if the gup and client are in different groups/folders, it will still get used.

O,lder version of SEP, may have different behaviour, but the above is true for MR/RU5