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Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

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ℬrίαηJan 09, 2014 03:37 PM

  • 1.  Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 02:26 PM
    I am currently deploying SEP across my region of my company. in each of our 17 locations we have a server on site. and the SEP Manager is on a virtual server at our global headquarters. My intention is to have the server in each location be the GUP for the 30-40 computers in each location. and the 17 servers pull their updates from the SEPM. ive spent some time reading the forums and haven't quite spotted exactly what I needed yet so I wanted to post my own thread. this is my first real experience with SEP deployment so forgive me if I don't relay everything 100%.
     
    so my current layout has My Company with 5 Groups,
    Default Group
    Mac Clients
    PC Clients
    POS Clients 
    Servers
    180px_Clients.JPG
    At the moment I am really only concerned with the PC clients and the servers. now as it stands the goal was to have any pc client whos subnet matched the subnet of the on site server and pull the live updates from there. We have one policy set for the servers and one set for all the PC clients.
     
    we set the live update policy server settings for the server policy with the following conditions. use default management server checked, use a live update server checked, the radio button for the default live server checked, use a group update provider, when you go to the definitions for that, multiple group update providers is checked, when you go to configure that the only condition I have set is each of the servers set by host name. 
    SS1 settings.JPG
    when going to the policy that is used on the pc clients live update policies server settings they are as follows:
    use default management server is checked, use a live update server is checked, use the default symantec live update server is radio button is selected. use a group update provider is checked. the provider settings are as follows:
    Explicit group update providers for roaming clients is checked and defined with each of the servers listed by host name. 
    Site Client settings.JPG
     
     
     
     
    from what I have read some people suggest moving the server clients into the same site location as its computers, some suggested uninheriting permissions and having each site location with a unique permission based off the original just having the one on site server listed. im a little past my area of expertise and would appreciate some help.


  • 2.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 02:29 PM

    i realize the max resolution on the pictures is pretty low so i included the noteworthy settings in the comments for each.



  • 3.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 02:36 PM

    It looks like you have a group for each location, correct? And currently, each group is inheriting from the "PC Clients" group?

    Have you had a look at the explicit GUP article:

    http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH198640

    http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH196741

    You still need to check either the multiple or single GUP box in addition to the explicit GUP box



  • 4.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 02:51 PM

    i do have a group for each location and at the moment they are not inheriting from the PC Clients Group, however the PC Clients group is inheriting from the My Company Group.

    BLV site profile.JPG

    i went into the server update policy and checked multiple GUP in addition to the explicit, safe to assume i needed to define the servers again?



  • 5.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 02:52 PM

    and im looking over those 2 links now. also, thanks i appreciate the help youve given so far.



  • 6.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 02:57 PM

    I assume you do want to break inheritance, correct? This will allow you to manage each group independantly of one another, assigning different policies, etc.

    Did the list stay intact, if not, you will need to re-define it.



  • 7.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 02:59 PM

    i dont need the locations to have different policies unless that dictates their ability to inherit their live update policy. 



  • 8.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 03:25 PM

    well, one of my counterparts was creating some of the location folders and some i created, i notice now that the ones he created are turned off from inheritance but mine are still inheriting. although when i look at his location folders i dont see a unique policy, still the same shared. so if theyre shared but not inheriting theyre not going to take that update i just made. 



  • 9.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 03:29 PM

    im also seeing theyre putting the various IP ranges on separate rules with 'or' conditions, would having all my servers in the same rule somehow make it conflicting to where a client might think it has to meet each of the servers subnet as criteria? if so i can go in and remove that and add them individually. some of this i was instructed/shown how to do and that was one of them, if im being misinformed i will make the change and report it up so that we dont make that mistake again.

     



  • 10.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 03:37 PM

    Correct



  • 11.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 03:41 PM

    So for your screenshot on the GUPs, you have all those servers in the Multiple Group Update provider list..the multiple group update providers use a set of rules, or criteria, to elect themselves to serve groups of clients in their own subnets

    See here:

    http://www.symantec.com/docs/HOWTO80957

    Was that intended or are they all in different locations? That's how I read it.



  • 12.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 03:46 PM

    Each of those servers is physically located in the same building as the clients i want them to be the GUP for. i did intend to have everyone of them update for their own set of computers that lives on the same subnet as them. 



  • 13.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 03:48 PM

    Ok, gotcha, just making sure I wasn't getting confused



  • 14.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 03:51 PM

    would i be better served marking each of them individually as a single GUP? if i was to do so would i have to make a unique policy per location that specifies the one single GUP. again, thanks for the help. i was assigned this task as a learned experience and as part of a professional development goal but my partner ive been assigned with who has more intimate knowledge has been overly busy with some other tasks and hasnt had time to give me much advice.



  • 15.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 03:55 PM

    No worries. Yea by doing that, you would need to create a policy for each (although can just copy the first one and edit the GUP name for the remaining)

    http://www.symantec.com/docs/HOWTO80900

    As an fyi, here is the SEP knowledgebase link:

    http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=productlanding&key=54619

    Tons of good info!



  • 16.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 03:56 PM

    i guess a little more background info wouldnt hurt. each of these servers located on site are being used as print and file servers for the users at each location. we'd been using symantec antivirus 10.x (forget the exact version) but about a month or two ago symantec basically emailed out saying that program has reach end of life and is no longer supported. whoever had initially deployed that regionally (about 550 workstations) is no longer with us so we dont have someone who has actually done it on staff. so being concerned that we would be eating too much bandwidth in each place with the live updates we opted to set up the local servers as GUPs. thus freeing up all of them updating from one location. physically deploying the clients hasnt been an issue, but getting the definitions to update as desired is. 



  • 17.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 04:46 PM

    Gotcha. Are the clients just not updating at all or you're still trying to get things configured correctly?



  • 18.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 04:51 PM

    the clients are updating their policies as per the schedule i defined, but when i look where theyre pulling the definitions from i do not see it as the local server, its just connecting to liveupdate.symantecliveupdate.com...

    and when i go to help>troubleshooting>connection status it shows the virtual server that the SEP Manager is on instead of the local server on site. unless im totally missing something and that is normal, but i would think it would be connecting to the server not the symantec site.



  • 19.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 04:59 PM

    update.JPG

    shouldnt it reflect the GUP here?

    and if not where do i look to find where its pulling definitions from.



  • 20.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 05:22 PM

    when i check out the status of one of my servers it reflects that it is a GUP.

    tan GUP.JPG

    so i feel like the servers are properly configured as GUPs but somehow i can figure out why they dont pull policy updates from them. i checked Monitor with these settings:

    server.client.JPG

    and choosing one result:

    policy update.JPG

    CEWP7583 is my virtual server with SEP Manager on it.



  • 21.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 05:28 PM

    It won't here. You need to check the System log on the SEP client

    You can also check this article I wrote:

    https://www-secure.symantec.com/connect/articles/sepm-121-advanced-settings-filter-options-client-activity-logs

    You can filter on GUP events



  • 22.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 05:29 PM

    Policy update always come from the SEPM. The GUP can only provide content updates, nothing else.



  • 23.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 05:34 PM

    so the content updates will be just virus definitions and such?



  • 24.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 05:54 PM

    Correct. Only content (definitions) for the various components that need them.



  • 25.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 06:07 PM

    i somehow managed to miss your post about the article you wrote, so i looked up that log withe the clients and used the source as GUP and this is the resultgup doubtful.JPG

    now, only one of the location folders is directed at a single GUP the rest are set multiple. and the one that has it is the one on top that has the number of entries at 1.

    gup maybe.JPG

    so does that mean that this one location is behaivng properly?



  • 26.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 06:20 PM

    Is that the correct server you setup via the policy?



  • 27.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 06:24 PM

    reading more into your article. i ran that report with SYLINK

     GUP success.jpg

    looks like they are pulling from the GUPs, but i guess it was my knowledge base that was lacking on how to find such reports. that screenshot from excel shows 3 separate locations there are more but i was trying to limit it.



  • 28.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 06:48 PM

    and i recognize the IPs that theyre pulling from as the Local servers and pinged a few by name to check the IP response and they matched up. sending the excel version of that report to one of my counterparts to confirm to make sure im not crazy and making myself see what i want.



  • 29.  RE: Configuring Multiple GUP's for on site servers

    Posted Jan 09, 2014 07:06 PM

    The client System log should also show an entry along the lines of "Downloaded content from GUP"