I'm unsure if anyone would have done a detailed side by side comparison between the two. I also don't believe that Microsoft's first attempt at getting into the archiving market will have the abilities and features that are presently in Enterprise Vault.

They would not have the flexibility of Discovery Accelerator or the ever watching eye of Compliance Accelerator. They also do not have any File System Archiving option. Maybe in the future they will develop these items but unless you just want to archive outlook items i don't think you will be coming close to the features available in Enterprise Vault

I would however say that it is something to watch for the future as Microsoft have a tendency grow quickly in a market when they decide they want in.

Flexibility in EV is good. I doubt (as Liam states) that the first few attempts of MS will be close to what EV has to offer.

Granular provisioning for example, DA and CA are strong points, compression, SIS, flexibility in what storage to use (centera etc).

I would definitely not wait for the MS feature, and use EV. If necessary, you can always export the archives back in Exchange and use MS Archiving ;-)

Gertjan

There is currently essentially no comparison at all with this attempt. As I can ascertrain the archiving in 2010 is actually just a 2nd mailbox so it is quite rudamentary.

There will be comparisations once EX 2k10 is out. There is not much information out there yet.

I highly believe that the "first shot" of microsoft is not comparable to the sophisticated archiving solutions out there, especially Enterprise Vault. So for the next 1 or 2 versions (3-6 years) you will probably be safe not counting on MS archiving. ;)

Cheers

So could anyone provide some in-sight into what Symantec's supportability stance will be for Exchange 2010 in regards to Enterprise Vault?

How long would we have to wait after Exchange 2010 is released (Likely later this year) before a compatible version of EV was available?

Cheers Dan

I'm sure that seeing as Exchnage 2010 is in Beta at the moment that Symantec are working on testing compatability.

I'm also sure that shortly after Exchnage 2010 is released that Symantec will have it listed on the compatability list for EV. My guess is when you get SP3 or SP4 for EV 8 you may have compatability

I'm sure Mike Bilsborough can provide more feedabck as to when to expect the compatability to be announced

Do we have a comparison on their capability as yet ?

If yes please provide me with some features that can be a breakthrough for EV above MS Exchange 2010

You inputs are highly valueable.

Regards,

GauravAditya

We are working closely with MS as you would expect regarding Exchange 2010. Regarding a comparison document there is nothing available for public consumption as of yet but as soon as there is it will be uploaded to this site.

Regarding when we support 2010 our usual stance is that we will endeavor to have support within 3 months of release date but personally I have seen no internal information as to what version of EV it will be included in. That makes sense as it has not been released itself yet as you know.

I completely take all your answers as valid however, the issue is that the co. does not want to invest in an archiving solution if the same features are built-in Exchange 2010.  With the current market situation, companies are becoming wise to decide, plan, evaluate and then invest rather than chose the best match as Requirement v/s Price and just do it. So I would need atleast some comparision that would justify EV over Exchange.

Sorry if I am streching this a bit too much but i need this and hence this forum thread.

Regards,

GauravAditya

I would recommend that you speak to an account representative that you have. I personally cannot give out any information due to legal reasons but maybe there are other people who will be able to give you this information. If you have no such person then let me know and I will have a look at what I can do for you.

 Microsoft Technical Team says that we have no such comparison chart and or information on this...

Can someone from Symantec throw some light on this?

Regards,

GauravAditya

 GauravAditya

There is no such comparison available. I'm sure Microsoft wont compare their version of mailbox archiving to EV because it will show up very lacking in options and features

Symantec wont do such a comparison because Exchange 2010 is not int the same league.

I would give up this quest because unless you are going to do a comparison it wont happen

There was a ferris.com article today which may is of interest:

http://www.ferris.com/2009/07/07/exchange-2010-arc...

Have we got anymore clarity on this part as yet ?

Unfortunately the internal document is still just that... internal. 

I've not read this in detail, but the features seem quite "light" : http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/2010/en/us/Archi...

This is an interesting discussion.  I'll try to help with a few tools that MS and Symantec have worked together to deliver.

Best,
Sean Regan
EV Product Marketing

1. A case Study on EV and Exchange 2010.  We encourage customers to upgrade to 2010 and can help with the migration in a number of ways.  See the linked doc to learn more about EV support  for 2010. http://www.microsoft.com/casestudies/Case_Study_Detail.aspx?CaseStudyID=4000005430

2. A  joint webcast with SYMC and MS on Exchane 2010 and Information Management. https://www4.symantec.com/Vrt/offer?_requestid=142578&a_id=87302&

Also, I have put together a few lists on Migrations and Information Management for MS.    I'll post these here since I dont have them linked yet to help you with your project. 

I've been to technet live day in the Netherlands. Believe me, the archiving as placed in 2010 is in no way comparable to Enterprise Vault.

What MS calls 'archive' is in fact a 2nd mailbox of the same user.
It will show in Outlook as "archive - Alink, G.H.J." (gee, where have I seen this before? Oh WAIT EV Client SP3!)
It will not do any compression on that 'archive'
It will not do SIS (except for the 2010 sissing)
It will have a search feature, but only for mailboxes, no journal (or do you want to have a 'archive' journal mailbox )
The search feature is NOT accepted in the US for legal discovery issues.
Moving a mailbox to another Exchange server also means moving the archive.

So, the archive brings no real benefit, will ask for twice the storage you have now, and will not hold when to be used in court-cases.

nop, I still vote for EV!

Gertjan

One thing to keep in mind is that E-2010 is a great messaging platform and EV is a great tool to help customers upgrade to it and then manage and archive it.   I don't think anyone would argue that customers should not use E-2010 itself.  The discussion on this thread is about whether the native archive feature is robust enough to replace the need for a 3rd party archive. Given that the archive is simply an additional mailbox on the same server many Exchange customers will be looking to 3rd party archives to help with the migration to 2010 and to help with long term informaton management of Exchange and other MS apps like SharePoint, Files, and IM.