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  • 1.  Ghost imaging modes?

    Posted Jun 22, 2009 10:34 AM
    We would like to move into using Ghost instead of Rdeploy because of the ability for file preservation but have noticed that it's slower than Rdeploy.

    A little background...

    We have 6.9 SP1 Build 365 obviously. We don't use PXE. We have Cisco content engines where the image is stored locally so the WinPE boot disk actually maps that location to pull the image down. We have shrunk it down so this image is a little over 2 GB.

    Rdeploy takes about 8 minutes. Ghost (for the same image that we pulled) takes about 13 minutes.

    Here is the command line we're using:

    To pull the image:
    f:\ghost\ghost32.exe -clone,mode=pdump,src=1:1,dst=f:\images\windows\BAS 5_pre.gho -sure -z9

    Then to push the image to a machine:
    f:\ghost\ghost32.exe -clone,mode=pload,src=f:\images\windows\BAS5_pre_te st.gho:1,dst=1:1,szeL -sure


    Anyone have any suggestions? Is there a switch we're missing? Are we not choosing the correct modes?

    What is the difference between pload and load?


  • 2.  RE: Ghost imaging modes?
    Best Answer

    Posted Jun 22, 2009 03:30 PM
    The issue is probably that you are using the highest level of compression. The greater the compression, the greater the time to take or deploy an image. I believe that if you tried this with an image taken with Fast compression your would see better speed.


  • 3.  RE: Ghost imaging modes?

    Posted Jun 22, 2009 04:31 PM
    I agree, -z9 is a bit too much, try -z2 (High compression) or -z1 (fast compression). If I remember right the amount of space you get from -z3 or higher isn't very much compared to the time it takes to backup and restore.


  • 4.  RE: Ghost imaging modes?

    Posted Jun 22, 2009 04:40 PM
    Cobra7 is indeed correct; the amount of compression does not increase significantly beyond High (-z2) compression. If every MB is ~absolutely~ critical, then it might be justified to use -z9, but you are always trading performance for efficiency. The Fast (-z1) compression usually results in an image about 55% of the used space of the drive and is typically the most desirable, as it is faster than both no compression and High compression.


  • 5.  RE: Ghost imaging modes?

    Posted Jun 23, 2009 02:35 PM

    We will give z1 and z2 a try.  



  • 6.  RE: Ghost imaging modes?

    Posted Jun 23, 2009 04:32 PM
    So it now pulls the image at a very nice speed or 400 to 350 MB/min. and with the z1 or z2 switch the image is still a nice size.

    But push that same image it is slow 253MB/min or slower.

    Here is the comnand line we use

    ghost32.exe -clone,mode=load,src=f:\images\windows\BAS5_pre_2.gho,dst=1:1 -szee -sure -auto -ntil -ntic -nousb

    what is making it slow....


  • 7.  RE: Ghost imaging modes?

    Posted Jun 23, 2009 04:41 PM
    It is possible that the drivers that WIndows PE is using for that hardware may need to be updated. Here are the most recent SATA controller drivers from Intel:

    https://www-secure.symantec.com/connect/downloads/sata-drivers-intel-ich9-and-ich10


    These are Windows Vista drivers, which is what WinPE uses in the PreOS environemnt.

    What is the network card? Updating the Vista drivers for that would be a good idea, as well.


  • 8.  RE: Ghost imaging modes?

    Posted Jun 23, 2009 04:44 PM
    thought of that.  Here is why I dont think that is problem because pulling the image it is fast.  Push the image it is slow.   Also push the image using rdeploy is fast.  


  • 9.  RE: Ghost imaging modes?

    Posted Jun 23, 2009 04:50 PM
    What is the make and model of the machine? It may be a good idea to consider the drivers. The rdeploy is using different drivers, since it is running in DOS and not WinPE. It seems to me like the issue may be the storage driver. I have seen several cases where an up-to-date storage driver has resulted in a different throughput speed due to more efficient access of the disk. The link I provided above is for the drivers for Intel's ICH9 and ICH10 controllers, which are the most likely if these are new machines.


  • 10.  RE: Ghost imaging modes?

    Posted Jun 23, 2009 05:02 PM
    Ok well give it a try.  It is a Dell 745.