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  • 1.  Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted May 23, 2007 02:43 PM
    I use the program Ghost often and now with the new suite version I have to change things such as my CD Boot disk for all my (different)PCs at work
    Because we need 2 floppies it makes it tougher to make aCD boot disk. I have tried for several days now and no success. 
    Since we have 17 schools in our school board we have many images. Eventually I would like to make one boot disk for 6 or 9 different PC.... Anyhow this is make autoexec and config...    
     
    autoexec.bat
     
    @echo off
    SET TZ=GHO+05:00
    mscdx /L:D /d:mscd001
    \net\netbind.com
    MOUSE.COM
    echo Loading Ghost...
    d:
    cd \ghost
    GHOST.EXE
    config.sys
     
    DEVICE=\net\protman.dos /I:\net
    DEVICE=\net\dis_pkt.dos
    DEVICE=\net\EL90X.DOS
    LASTDRIVE = Z
     
    I use a 3COM 3c90x nic card. Is there a autoexec.bat & config.sys I can use as a sample?
    Also, once you make the image and add the ghost.exe file in there to make the boot CD, is there a way to re-open the image file with a program and do changes?
    When I open the CD on my desktop  I don't see anything on the CD..
    Any help I would appreciate:smileyhappy:


  • 2.  RE: Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted May 25, 2007 03:07 AM
    Hi,

    Ghost Boot Wizard in Ghost 11 can create ISO images. You can directly burn them to CDs and use it.

    Could you try that? Or is there any reason why you cannot use the ISOs created from Ghost Boot Wizard?

    Krish


  • 3.  RE: Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted May 25, 2007 08:43 AM
    Thanks Krish
     
    I use Ghost suite 1.1 and not Ghost 11 (if there is any difference to imaging). I have no problem making an image file. With this new version using Ghost Boot Wizard  , I need 2 floppy disks.  Then it is to make a Boot CD with the 2 floppy.
     
    There are steps Symantec forgot to include to make this happen in a easy way or child proof.
    After I make the image I use Nero to burn the image and also add the Ghost.exe on the CD. Does not work!! because there are lines to be included in the autoexec.bat and config.sys to make the CD boot up withought error.
     
    I have 6 different Boot disks (older version of ghost) for computers at the school board. But with the new version of ghost suite it is not compatible with the old CDs. I am certain that many othere techs are having the same issue. I just wish I had a sample of an autoexec.bat and config.sys to play with.
     
    I have tried several CD's and it booted up nice with everything until the end when it was looking for the Ghost.exe on the cd, then it stop there. would not boot the exe.
     
    It may not be a big issue but someone should know how to resolve this
     
    Thanx   
     
     
     
     


  • 4.  RE: Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted May 26, 2007 03:36 AM
    Hi,

    GSS 1.1 also supports directly creating an ISO image, using Ghost Boot Wizard. If you create a Network boot package and select 'ISO image' in the 'Destination Drive' dialog, it will create a file in ISO format with all necessary files. Then you can directly burn it to a CD using any utility such as Nero. I am not sure if I missed anytihng here, if there is any reason why you can't use this let me know.

    In your previous boot disk, I think what's missing is the CDROM Driver in Config.sys. You load MSCDEX in Autoexec, but you need to have a CDROM driver such as OAKCDROM.SYS in in Config.sys. If you create a CD/DVD boot floppy from Ghost boot wizard, you can use config and autoexec as samples. However, this is probably unnecessary if the ISO image works for you.

    Krish


  • 5.  RE: Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted May 29, 2007 08:40 AM
    I have tried basically everything and it does not work. If I do what you suggest in the network boot package, it does not work. It loads the nic driver, LAN manager, Netblind,..etc then I get the error
     
    General failure writing drive A..............Abort, Retry,Fail? 
     
    You can`t just follow the Ghost Boot Wizard and expect to make a workable boot CD. People have to make changes in the autoexec.bat and config.sys to work...
     
    I am using a Dell laptop to create this boot CD and I have 6 different PC's beside me that I need to boot from.
    When I get the first one working then it will be easy. Tell you what , why don't you try to make a CD Boot disk and see if it works! It can't work because you need to change some lines in DOS. But If you succeed please let me see the autoexec.bat and config.sys.


  • 6.  RE: Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted May 30, 2007 03:54 AM
    Hi,

    I will try that and let you know.

    However, the most common reason for that message is loading mouse.com. If there is no mouse.ini, when you run mouse.com it tries to create the mouse.ini file and fails. Most probably, it will work if you remove mouse.com from autoexec.

    However, I will have a look at the default one.

    Krish


  • 7.  RE: Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted Jun 01, 2007 04:13 AM
    Hi,

    I just tried creating an iso image from GSS 1.1. I selected network boot disk, selected undi driver, and left the default in everything else and selected iso package. Then used 2003 resource kit tool CDburn.exe to burn the iso to a CD and boot a Dell 745 machine without a problem.

    Could you let me know what steps were different in your case?

    Could you press F8 when it says 'Starting PCDOS' and select step by step and see what was the command made it to give the error message?

    You said you need to change autoexec and config in the boot CD. One option is open the ISO file, get osboot.img and edit the files.

    The other option may be faster. Ghost Boot Wizard allows you to add commands to autoexec and config using the network driver. When creating the boot disk, if you select the network driver and select copy, it will make a copy of the driver. (So that you have the original intact). Then select the copy, and press 'Modify'. In 'advance' tab, you can add commands to config and autoexec.

    Let me know if this works for you.

    Krish


  • 8.  RE: Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted Jun 01, 2007 03:24 PM
    Hi Krish
     
    Thanks for the info. I am realizing that I am not explaining myself properly.
     
    I am able to create a Ghost Boot disk and boot from the cd. The problem that I am having is when I boot with the cd, everything executes ok except when it gets to the part where it shoud load the ghost.exe file. This is where the problem occurs. Ghost will not load and different errors appears.
     
    This is my autoexec.bat
     
    @echo off
    SET TZ=GHO+05:00
    MSCDEX /L:D /d:mscd001
    mouse.com
    \net\netbind.com
    echo Loading ghost...
    d:
    cd ghost
    ghost.exe
    ------------------------------------------------------
    and this is my config.sys
     
    @echo off
    SET TZ=GHO+05:00
    MSCDEX /L:D /d:mscd001
    mouse.com
    \net\netbind.com
    echo Loading ghost...
    d:
    cd ghost
    ghost.exe
    Then I make a Boot Cd with Nero (loading image and ghost folder with ghost.exe). When I boot up the CD I get all my drivers and eveything loaded correctly and the last five lines on the monitor I get is
     
    IBM NetBind v2.1
    Loading Ghost...
    Invalid directory
    Command or file name incorrect
    d:\
     
     
    This is where I am stuck (very close by no cigar) Can you verify on your autoexec.bat & config.sys.
     
    Thanx
     
     


  • 9.  RE: Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted Jun 02, 2007 10:32 PM
    Hi,

    I think you copied autoexec twice instead of Config.sys, but I think it is the same config.sys you posted in your earlier post :-)

    Now, the problem here is the following line.

    d:

    I am not sure why it is trying to access Ghost from drive d: since we don't do that with any of the boot disks we create. May be you expect to run Ghost from the CD or something, but there seems to be no drive d: in system.

    When it give this error message, could you just try 'dir' command and see where the Ghost directory is? It could be in drive C: or drive E:, F: etc.

    Krish


  • 10.  RE: Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted Jun 06, 2007 03:35 PM
    Sorry for both auto.exec.bat ( it was friday )hahaa
     
    The config sys was the same except I added the  DEVICE=OAKCDROM.SYS /D:mscd001
     
    I also noticed when I made the 2 floppies from ghost network boot, in the autoexec.bat they have a lines saying
     
    ''if not exist b:\ghost\ghost.exe goto CDBOOT
    b:
    goto GHOPSTFND
     
    :GHOSTFND
    cd \ghost
    echo Loading...
     
    GHOST.EXE
    goto END    
    etc...etc...
     
    If you have done this successfully with a CD then you most have an autoexe.bat and config.sys!!
    Can you show me those 2 files..
     
    When I boot up with the last Boot CD I made I get all the files and then in the last several linesw it says
     
    >Loading Ghost
    >command or name file is incorrect
    >A:\
     
    Then I type my D: and dir
    I get
     
    >The volume in D drive is GHOST
    >cannot find files
     
    It can see the D: drive but does not access it or load ghost (does not seem to be on the drive but it is)
     
    I can easily make 2 floppy disks and everything works fine with the ghost suite,, so why is so hard to make a Boot CD with theses 2 floppies on?
    Is there anyone else you can ask or check if they know what I should change in the autoexc/config.sys or other things
     
    Thanks
     
     
     


  • 11.  RE: Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted Jun 07, 2007 12:19 AM
    Hi,

    I have different autoexec.bat and config.sys files, but they are different for each type of boot disks.

    When you create boot disks from Ghost Boot Wizard, after giving the name of the iso image, it shows a review dialog box. This box has both Config.sys and Autoexec.bat. I re-checked with my CD, that's what exactly I have.

    When creating boot packages, there are differences in Autoexec and config. For example, when you select the network boot package and create and iso image, autoexec and config looks like,

    AUTOEXEC.BAT:
    @echo off
    SET TZ=GHO-12:00
    prompt $p$g
    \net\Undipd.com 0x60
    if exist MOUSE.COM MOUSE.COM
    echo Loading...
    CD \GHOST
    GHOST.EXE

    CONFIG.SYS:
    DEVICE=\net\undi_drv.exe
    DEVICE=\net\HIMEM.SYS
    LASTDRIVE = Z

    If you create the same package in two floppies, it is,

    AUTOEXEC.BAT:
    @echo off
    SET TZ=GHO-12:00
    prompt $p$g
    \net\Undipd.com 0x60
    if exist MOUSE.COM MOUSE.COM
    echo Loading...
    call FINDRAMD.BAT z y x w v u t s r q p o n m l k j i h g f e d c
    if "%ram%" == "" echo RAM drive not found!
    if "%ram%" == "" goto EOF
    mkdir %ram%:\GHOST
    joinxe -p -f %ram%:\GHOST\GHOST.EXE \GHOST\1.exe \GHOST\2.exe
    %ram%:
    CD \GHOST
    GHOST.EXE
    :EOF

    CONFIG.SYS:
    DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS
    DEVICE=\net\undi_drv.exe
    DEVICE=\net\HIMEM.SYS
    DEVICE=RAMDRIVE.SYS 4096 /e
    LASTDRIVE = Z

    The reason is, when you use two floppies, it creates a RAMDrive, and then join two parts of Ghost.exe read from two floppies to the RAMDrive. There are many commands in autoexec to find the drive letter of RAM drive, since it could change based on how many fat partitions you have in the system.

    When booting from a CD, it emulates a hard disk so the config/autoexec files are simpler.

    You can't easily transfer two floppes to a CD. When creating a CD in this way, it does not just copy the contents of the floppy to CD, but it creates an image file of floppy and copy it to the CD. It has to be a size of a floppy if you use floppy emulation. When you have to build a CD boot disk with two floppies, there is no place to put the second floppy disk.

    I think the best option here is not to use the files from two floppy disks since they are different.

    I again had a look at your files, first I thought they were created by Ghost Boot Wizard. But it seems you have created them.

    Autoexec and Config look OK. However, part of the MSCDEX command line is replaced with the smily face by forum. Did you have L colon D there? If it is so, command line is correct.

    Can you check,

    1. Have you copied oakcdrom.sys and mscdex.exe to the root of the floppy before creating the CD?
    2. Could you try another drive letter instead of D? Something like X? The reason is, if your machien has another fat partition, the drive letter D would be already used. (You need to edit the drive letter in MSCDEX command, instead of L colon D, use L colon X. And after 'echo loading Ghost', X instead of D)
    3. If this does not work, press F8 when it says 'Starting PCDOS' and that will allow you to select step by step mode. Then see if all the commands work without an error or not.

    Krish


  • 12.  RE: Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted Jun 07, 2007 10:14 AM
    Hi
     
    Thanks for the prompt response
     
    I will try the autoexec.bat and config.sys (modify) from the sample you have created
    and let you know the outcome
     
    In one of the line you mentioned that I did not use Ghoost Boot Wizard ,,,, but I did
    I had to add the CD rom and mouse . I have tried and modified many different images (about 30)
    to get this CD to boot properly(or get ghost to boot from the CD)
     
    I did copy oakcdrom.sys and mscdex.exe to the floppy before creating the image. Hopefully the oakcdrom.sys
    is the right driver!!!
     
    Your autoexec and config are totally different from the one I made with GhostBoot wizard. I will give it a try and show you what it looks like when I'm done
    Maybe if you want , you can try to configure my autoexec.bat and config.sys with yours and we can compare and see if one of us can get the CD to work
     
    Thanks  Krish 


  • 13.  RE: Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted Jun 07, 2007 03:27 PM
    Hi Krish
     
    I tried to play with your autoexec and config,,,, no go.
    Instead I tried this
     
    Autoexec.bat
     
    @echo off
    SET TZ=GHO+05:00
    prompt $p$g
    \net\netbind.com
    MSCDEX.EXE /K:mscd001
    MOUSE.COM
    echo Loading...
    :GHOSTFND
    cd \ghost
    GHOST.EXE
     
    Config.sys
     
    DEVICE=OAKCDROM.SYS /K:mscd001
    DEVICE=\net\protman.dos /I:\net
    DEVICE=\net\dis_pkt.dos
    DEVICE=\net\EL90X.DOS
    LASTDRIVE = Z
    This is very close to working . when I boot up I use F8 and use the step by step.
    (Notice i switched the D to K)
    The only error I get is in autoexe.....
     
    MSCDEX.EXE


  • 14.  RE: Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted Jun 07, 2007 03:43 PM
    sorry I got cut off... here is the next step
     
    MSCDEX.EXE /K:mscd001 [Enter=Y,ESC=N]? Y                                                  
    Illegal option 
    usage: MSCDEX [^/e/k/s/v]  [ /D:<driver>......]¸  [/L:<letter>] [/M:<buffers>]
     
    Then the rest is good , all drivers are installed or loading
     
    At the End I get
     
    A:\GHOST>GHOST.EXE
    GHOST.EXE [Enter=Y,Esc=N]?Y
    Bad command or file name
     
    A:\GHOST
     
    This is where I am stuck, probably that one little line in MSCDEX.EXE /K:mscd001
     
    Any idea   thanks


  • 15.  RE: Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted Jun 08, 2007 05:57 PM
    Hi Jacques,
     
    I can't really see why you should use OAKCDROM (or similar) or MSCDEX at all. You have booted to CD and started to read files from it (including the OAKCDROM and MSCDEX) so skip those!
     
    IF you should need to boot from another source (floppy or HD) then you need to load these files to access files from the CD. If your PC can boot from the CD the PC takes care of this problem and gives you access to the files on the CD. I believe it is handled as a large floppy but I'm not 100% sure of this.
     
    If you press F8 on DOS boot and don't run any commands from config.sys or autoexec.bat, what drive letter is shown on the DOS prompt? You should not need to change any drive to access files that are on the CD.
     
    I did some searching and found this page with tons of info


  • 16.  RE: Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted Jun 09, 2007 02:41 AM
    Hi,

    You need the CDROM drivers if you want to access the data area of CD, even when you boot from CD. It does a floppy emulation, and boot to the floppy image. If you do not use the driver, you want be able to access the CD, you will only get a drive A:.

    Can you change the Config.sys oakcdrom.sys line to (I can't remember a switch K)

    DEVICE=OAKCDROM.SYS /D:mscd001

    and the Autoexec.bat MSCDEX line to

    MSCDEX.EXE /D:mscd001 /L:X

    This should assign drive X: to CD. Then try,

    X:
    cd \Ghost
    Ghost



    Krish

    Message Edited by Krish Jayaratne on 06-09-200707:44 PM



  • 17.  RE: Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted Jun 11, 2007 09:33 AM
    Hi Krish
     
    I changed the 2 files
     
    DEVICE=OAKCDROM.SYS /D:mscd001

    and the Autoexec.bat MSCDEX line to

    MSCDEX.EXE /D:mscd001 /L:X
    This is what I get when I used the step by step on F8
     
    .......
    Mouse driver installed
    echo Loading... [Enter=Y,Esc=N]?Y
    Loading...
    cd \ghost [Enter=Y,Esc=N]?Y
    GHOST.EXE [Enter=Y,Esc=N]?Y
    Bad command or file name
    A:\GHOST>
     
    Now if I do a ``dir`` on the A:\GHOST> it tells me       0 files and 2 DIr
     
    Now if I do a ``dir`` on the X: lt tells me Volume in drive X is GHOST
                                                                   Directory of X:\
                                                                   File not found
                                                                  0 bytes free 
     
    It seems something is missing in autoexec.bat to make the ghost.exe from the CD to execute.
    Getting closer & closer


  • 18.  RE: Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted Jun 12, 2007 02:35 AM
    Hi,

    Did you copy Ghost to the CD using Nero? This almost looks like the CD is empty.

    When you run with F8, what messages it gives for Device command and MSCDEX command?

    Krish


  • 19.  RE: Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted Jun 12, 2007 08:04 AM
    I use Nero Burning Rom version 7.8.5.0. I make the image of the floppy and then I slide the ghost folder inside then I get the image and then burn. Maybe there is another way I could try to burn??
     
    This is what I get
     
    DEVICE=OAKCDROM.SYS /D:MSCD001 [Enter=Y,Esc=N]?Y
    This device is provided by Oak Technology.Inc
    OTI-91X ATAPI CD-Rom device driver, Rev.,D91XV352
    (C) Copyright Oak Technology Inc  1987-1997
    Device name           : MSCD001
    Transfer Mode         : Programmed I/O
    Number of Drives    : 1
     
    THEN for the MSCDEX command
     
    MSCDEX.EXE /D:mscd001 /L:X [Enter=Y,Esc=N]?Y 
    MSCDEX Version 2.25
    Copyright.................. all right reserved
          Driver X: = Driver MSCD001 unit 0
    MOUSE.COM [Enter=Y,Esc=N]?Y
     
    Then the rest is the same as previous
     
    Thanks


  • 20.  RE: Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted Jun 13, 2007 12:56 AM
    Hi,

    I think you have created the CD correctly, and it is loading the driver. I am not sure why you don't see the files now, may be the emulation type selected when you create the CD.

    Before going to that,

    • if you open this CD from a Windows machine, what do you see? You should see the Ghost directory and the files.
    • After booting a machine from this CD, if you take the CD out and put another CD and get the directory, could you see the files?
    • In case if you used a different emulation type - could you see if Ghost directory is there in drive A:?


    Krish

    Message Edited by Krish Jayaratne on 06-13-200706:09 PM



  • 21.  RE: Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted Jun 13, 2007 08:20 AM
    HI,
     
    If I take the last Boot CD, or any CD I created for that matter, and use my laptop to verify what is on the CD, I don't see anything, there is nothing on. So I suppose the ghost folder never got on the CD !!
     
    SO what I did is made another CD with just the Ghost folder and I can boot from it. So the only thing  I see is that when I burn the image and add the ghost folder to it , it does not burn the ghost folder.
     
    To answer the last question about A:..... When I let the cd to boot up the last line I get is A:\GHOST
    but if I do a dir, there is nothing in there. it says
     
                                             <DIR>    06-07-07   1:27p
                                             <DIR>    06-07-07   1:27p
                          
                                0 file(s)                                0 bytes
                                 2 dir(s)                         818,688 bytes free
     
    Maybe I can try another way of making a CD (another program)what do you think? and what program do you think will work
     
    Thank
     


  • 22.  RE: Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted Jun 14, 2007 03:35 AM
    Hi,

    Thanks for the info - anyway, now the DOS part is working OK, only thing to find out is why the Ghost folder is not going there.

    It is difficult to think it is something wrong with Nero, but probably some setting is wrong.

    Could you give me all the steps you used to create this from the start? May be I can try the same thing here and see if there is anything to change.

    Krish


  • 23.  RE: Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted Jun 14, 2007 10:17 AM
    Hey Krish
     
    Here is step by step using Nero Express 7 Version 7.8.5.0
     
    1. Open Nero Burning Rom
    2. In the left pane, I pick CD-ROM (Boot)
    3. Then on the right in the BOOT, choose the Bootlable logical drive A:\1,44MB
    4. In the ISO the Mode 1, ISO 9660+J, Max.of 11=8+3 chars(Level 1), ISO 9660 (standart ISO CD-ROM)
    5. In the RELAX RESTRICTIONS, all 4 items are selected
    6. In the LABEL , it is on Automatic DIsc name:  image 7
    7. In Misc both caching are selected with 64 KB
    8. Then I press NEW
    9. Then I select Image Recorder as my burner and press BURN
    10. In the BURN then Action, write and finalize disc are selected, Disc-at-once, number of copies: 1
    11. If I select (on top) INFO, User data to be written  1,424KB (2 MB) , Space needed for directory info. 342KB(1 MB), Total data to be written:  1,766 KB(2MB)
    12. Then I BURN, I get a Save image File and save it as whatever, say image77, then enter and it creates the image
    13. When it is done I click on OK and I am still in the Nero Burning ROM window. Then I look in the Browsers for my Folder of Ghost and drag from right to left pane(folder called ghost, containing ghost.exe)
    14. Then I go on top and choose Recorder, Burn image. Then I select the image from the folder I saved it in and select OPEN. I then change my recorder to  my D:TSSTcorpDVD+-RW TS-L632D and choose BURN
    15. Now if I look at my INFO in the Burn Compilation it  says , User data to be written  2,828KB (3 MB) , Space needed for directory info. 354KB(1 MB), Total data to be written:  3,182KB(4MB)
    16. Then I burn with  Write, and Finalize disc, 24X, Disc at once and super Link
    17. Then I burn the CD
    18. Then boot with the other PC and thats it


  • 24.  RE: Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted Jun 15, 2007 02:46 AM
    Hi,

    Thanks for the very detailed explanation, every thing seems to be OK.

    However, you save the image in Step 12, Add the Ghost folder in Step 13, and burn the image in step 14. Should not you save the image after 13 with Ghost before open it in 14?

    This may be a mistake when writing, but please check. I will try to do the same but have to find this version of SW.

    Krish


  • 25.  RE: Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted Jun 15, 2007 08:50 AM
    Hi
     
    I did what you suggested and it made sense  and it almost worked.
    I made the CD and booted it up and still got the bad file error, but at least I could open the X: drive and see the ghost folder.
    So I new it needed a command to open the ghost folder on the CD so I changed the autoexec.bat to load the X: and everything worked ....... hee-haw finally... thanks a million
     
     
    Autoexec.bat
     
    @echo off
    SET TZ=GHO+05:00
    prompt $p$g
    \net\netbind.com
    MSCDEX.EXE /K:mscd001
    MOUSE.COM
    echo Loading...
    X:                                                <--------- changed this line to X
    cd \ghost
    GHOST.EXE
     
    This made my day and again thank you for your patience and help
    Now for my next trick, I want to use 1 Boot CD for my 6 different computers. This should be easier to do now because this CD boots up, it is a matter of adding the other network drivers and add the info in autoexec and config..... I think  :) 
     
    Thanks   Krish


  • 26.  RE: Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted Jun 16, 2007 03:05 AM
    Great to hear that you got it going!

    Since you want to have a less number of boot CDs for multiple machines, one possibility is using the Universal Packet Driver. Universal Packet Driver is the one in PXE boot Rom. Since most of the current machines support PXE boot, they will work with the PXE driver.

    Try selecting the Universal Packet Driver V2 when you create the boot disk. This may not work with all the machines, but many of them and it is worth trying.

    Krish


  • 27.  RE: Ghost Suite CD Boot error

    Posted Jun 19, 2007 06:30 PM
    I had some success creating a msdos multi-nic boot cd, I have posted my findings here
     
    Regards,
    Morgan