I had the most current version of SAV installed previously, and it was current, it did not list any infected items. Also, even if the server was not communicating to this client, wouldn't SEP still provide scan detection of infected items anyway? This has happened on two machines so far. This is something I need to have addressed before I go large scale, and I need to know what the cause of this is. I used NoNav to remove the OLD SAV and Cleanwipe to remove SEP. No matter what. It communicated for MOST of the day, and then it dropped and when the restart occured is when I had the problem and needed to revery using "last know good config"