Installing Paltalk using SVS

George Freed's picture

I've been playing around with SVS trying to figure out all it can do. I tried to install Paltalk and I can't seem to get it to work. When I try a normal installation Paltalk installs correctly and operates normally. When I use SVS to install Paltalk, paltalk will not log in. What is interesting is that during a normal installation Paltalk displays a registration screen before it tries to log you in. Installation using SVS skips the registration screen and take you directly to the login screen. If you put in your name and password and try to log in things time out. For some reason when using a layer I can't establish a link with the paltalk servers. What am i doing wrong? I would really like to put all my apps on these layers. I'm of the impression that this system may provide yet another way to isolate and remove malware.



Thanks!

FrankB's picture

gfreed,



Did you virtualize Paltalk on a machine where it never was used on?



Starf0x

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George Freed's picture

No but i did a thorough cleaning job. I removed an older version using a program that not only un-installs but looks for loose file and folders. The program also goes through the registry and cleans out the left overs. I also used ccleaner. It could be that there were some things i missed!

EdT's picture

I am unfamiliar with Paltalk, but it is good practice to create packages or SVS layers on a known clean machine. You cannot always rely on "cleaners" - for example, if your install overwrites a registry key required by the operating system, a cleaner may well remove the key, but it will not know what previous value this key held, and thus a possibly important key setting will be lost.

Using virtual machines is one simple way of always ensuring a clean build, as you can reset a VM to a previous condition, using snapshots, or non-persistent virtual disk settings. Or create a GHOST image of your XP test machine and just restore the image when you need to get back to a clean state.



Does Paltalk install any services? Services are not supported in SVS and although it is sometimes possible to craft a workaround, in general this is one issue that consistently causes problems.



Is the Paltalk install based on an MSI installer?

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philbenson's picture

Hi All,

although services *sometimes* cause problems with SVS, I'd say that the service support that SVS provides is allot better than some other application virtualization products...



As EdT has already stated, packaging on anything other than a 'clean-machine' is paramount to a mortal sin. Do not do it. There is no way of knowing if the package is at fault, or the machine.



Do you use the Admin tool, or Wise Package Studio to create the layer?

If you use the Admin tool, check to make sure that no user specific (as in YOUR DATA) is being deplyoed. You can check this by renaming the vsa file to *.zip, and looking for any SID's in the package.



Have you had a look to see if there is any network traffic at all? (WireShark?), perhaps it's a firewall problem?



just my tuppence



Phil

EdT's picture

Phil,

Do you know if anyone has successfully virtualised SQL Server Express 2005?

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philbenson's picture

Hi EdT,

of the top of my head, no, officially it will not be suported, as it's a 'server' application, but practically, it should not be a problem. The only difficulties I suspect would be the SxS components, but having said that, I have just recently SVS'd Open Office 3, which requires the VC ++ runtimes, and did not have a problem with those... perhaps it's something to play with when I have time ;-)



Cheers

Phil