Java 6 through PMI Import
Created: 20 Feb 2013 | 10 comments
I noticed Java is up to release 15 for JRE 7 but PMI import is only up to 13. Java will no longer be releasing updates to 6 for public consumption but I still need it for a few systems. Will PMI import continue to bring in updates for Java 6? What takes so long for Symantec to update PMI import? Are there certain days of the week to expect updates? So often there are zero day exploits and having to wait 2-5 days for symantec to update allows for possible situations that could have been avoided.
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On a related note, I've always wondered whether Symantec is able to get patches from vendors "prior" to their general release to the public. If they're not getting them any sooner than we are, the expectation is there that they won't be able to immediately release a new PMImport as time has to be taken finding/downloading the updates, working out the command-lines, testing, etc. Maybe someone with Symantec will chime in and give us the inside scoop.
Clint
Someone within my agency has access to pretty much every oracle download ever so I was able to get the versions of java that I need and start deploying them through software management before they ever showed up in PM!
Agan, an update for java 6 and 7 are both available however only an updated version of 7 can through on PMI yesterday. Is Symantec dropping support for 6? 6u43 is available through oracle support with the right credentials.
Hopefully not offering 6u43 at the same time as 7u17 is an oversight by Symantec. Don't see a reason why they'd stop including 6u43 in PMI; especially when I'm still running SEP 11.0.5 whose console doesn't support Java 7. The funny thing is that I'm in the middle of migrating clients from Altiris 6 to ITMS 7.1 where I've already created software delivery policies on my Altiris 6 server to deploy 6u43 and 7u17 to the few remaining Altiris 6 clients I have left. It'd be like going backwards if Symantec didn't include 6u43 in PM 7.1 as well.
Clint
Java 6 update 43 is included to the latest Patch Data 7.1.402.
Thanks,
Roman
Roman,
This happened again. The most recent import brought in 7 update 21 but left out 6 update 45. I find it hard to believe that I'm the only one looking for this. Again, I was able to get the patches through a co-workers oracle account but not everyone has an oracle account. Also, I'd like to not have to build a custom report to make sure my systems are all compliant.
I echo your sentiments that people still do have a need for Java 6 updates because of requirements to maintain older apps that aren't compatible with Java 7 (e.g. SEPM 11.x console).
Depending upon what's running when the Java 6 install kicks off, I've heard of an issue where the update uninstalls the existing Java as it should but ends up not installing the new version; leaving the PC without any Java loaded. Perhaps Symantec needs extra time to work on the Java 6 updates because of this known issue? Last heard this problem existed way back in version 6u24 but maybe it was never resolved by Oracle and just carried forward to newer 6.x versions?
Clint
I deploy java through Software Management rather than patch management. It requires a little bit more work at the beginning but it allows for greater customization, e.g. silent install, removing auto-update features, etc..
On issue I've noticed is when deploying with SMP the x86 install to a x64 system it refuses to run silently and moves on to the next item in my bat script. Does it do the same to you in Patch? When I manually copy my package to the system and run the install as me it runs fine. The x64 components install fine. My admin account and the altiris application account have the same level of permissions on our network.
Maybe its an oracle issue? Its doing it on both the java 6 and 7 releases.
My apologies for the delayed view of this post, but in case the question is still present: Java 6-45 was included in PMImport 7.1.417 released on 4/23/13.
Thank you,
Joshua
Thank you. But again, 6 and 7 were in two different imports.
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