OK So I upgraded SEPM on my server to 11.0.4014.26, that went surprisingly well. I did the steps outlined to force an upgrade on the client machines using both the admin/install packages/upgrade groups with package as well as policies/live update/advanced settings. They are set according to the install guide instructions. When I manually run live update on a machine that is in the group I told to upgrade, it goes thru real fast and nothing ... I can see that computer in the managment console. I know it's communicating to the server correctly, if I make a policy change and update the policy from the comptuer, those changes are these. I can manually run the upgrade package and it works on the one I tested but I don't want to have to visit each computer. Right now there are just under 300 comptuers in 3 locations. Can anyone offer any insight??