Thanks for replying, Roman.
I actually had seen that 603 thread before, but assumed it was fixed back in August so didn't pay too much attention.
If I go to installed updates, it does show as installed, and if I uninstall it and reinstall via download from MS link below and reboot, it still shows as needing to be installed through windows update.
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=29152
However, if I uninstall and reinstall through windows update, it removes itself properly from the 'needs to be installed' windows update pane.
For 661, I do have 2574819. I tried to attach the .log file but it won't let me as .log, will rename to .txt.