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Multicast Questions....

Updated: 21 May 2010 | 5 comments
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Hi everyone,
I've been starting working with Altiris DS 2 months ago, and i have a litte question, and nobody to ask..
I made a HII (in fact, 2 : 32bits and 64bits), and i have to make a job in the DS to use multicast. (that's not my problem...).
My image will be deployed by someone else, our hardware supplier, and here where i'm in trouble !!
I found how to make a script to create a "Master" computer (RDeploy\Windows\rdeployt  -mdb -fN:) , and also how to deploy client. My aim is to find one, making both (master and client), in order to have something totaly automatic, and making multicast of course !!
My Altiris Deployement Solution version is 6.9.
Thx by advanced for reading, and may be for helping me !!!

Vincent

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 First, well done. Making HII

 First, well done. Making HII images within 2 months of using DS is pretty good! So, you've done the hard part. The easy part is deployment - DS natively and transparently can handle the multicast if you let it.

To explain, when you drop an imaging job onto a bundle of computers (say 10 for the sake of argument) Delployment Server will select from one of those clients the master. It then sends the image to this machine, which then multicasts that image data to the rest of the computers. The trick in all this is understanding that there is a multicast threshold. This threshold defines the minimum number of computers which must be simultaneously imaged in order for the multicast engine to be invoked.

I think the default the threshold is 4, and this can be tweaked using the Deployment Server Configuration program (under Start-Menu -> Programs -> Altiris -> Deployment Server). Once in the Deployment Server Configuration Utility, click the Options button and you can configure within the Disk Imaging tab your threshold.

In order for this threshold to kick-in, you must use the Deployment Server 'Distribute Disk Image' tasks. Just select your image within the task wizard (don't try to override with extra switches) and then everything should just work.

Kind Regards,
Ian./


Ian Atkin, Senior Developer for the ICT Support Team, Oxford University, UK

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Hi Ianatkin, Thanks for your

Hi Ianatkin,
Thanks for your advices. I had a look to the Disk Imaging tab, and modified my threshold.
It seems to work now, but i think i have a little problem.....
I tried to deploy my image on 7 computers. A master has been designed, and clients detected as connected.
The beginning of the deployement was fast, but when it arrived at almost 30%, the thruput felt (from 300Mb/min to 1.....).
My bandwith is not limited....i can't afford to deploy image on 7 computers in more than 20min.........
Any ideas ??

Regards,
Vincent

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 This could be many things

 This could be many things i'm afraid, so here are some pointers...

  1. Is this reproducible? If you initiate the job again do you get the same results. Your imaging downturn might be due to load on the server (full AV scan / backup in progress?), or a drop in bandwidth due to QoS implementations on other network services or other network 'glitch'
     
  2. What happens is you try imaging in different automation environments (you have the choice of DOS/Linux/WinPE). If you have a discrepancy it might be driver related in which case a driver upgrade might help
     
  3. In the past i've seen switch auto-negotiation issues on ports which can lead to terrible imaging speeds. Might be worth logging into the switches and confirming the ports are set to the correct speed (100/1000) and that they are full duplex. The fact that you imaging starts off being fast though lends me to think that the negotiation is OK. Worth double-checking though.
     
  4. You might have a badly performing machine. Do you have any deep suspicions about any of the hardware you are imaging. DS should drop computers from multicast sessions if they hold up imaging, but might be worth trying to remove any computers you are suspicious of from the imaging pool.

As an aside, if you are multicasting to deploy public area/lab computers (and thus intend to do this frequently) its worth perhaps looking into storing the image locally on the client computer's harddisks. Imaging will be super fast then!

Kind Regards,
Ian./

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Hi Ianatkin !! Once again,

Hi Ianatkin !!
Once again, than you very much. I checked the 4 points you gave me. And the good one was the 4th....I kicked it out my range, try to deploy my image on 9 PC (my test would have been better with 10....), in multicast, and it worked well, and fast too !!!!
I'm gonna be ready to give my "work" to my hardware supplier, thanks to you !!!
So, i think my problem is solved !!
Once again, and the last, THANK YOU !!!!

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Shame I didn't order the

Shame I didn't order the troubleshoot points  other way... ;-)

Glad that you're sorted. Be a good chap though and mark the post as solved!

Kind Regards,
Ian./

Ian Atkin, Senior Developer for the ICT Support Team, Oxford University, UK

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