I found that "The Symantec NetBackup 7.0 Beta program is currently closed". Do you know if it's still possible to get 7.0 version for Solaris SPARC?

That is a FINE cut and paste of TechNote 336166.

Symantec NetBackup 7.0 Beta Program
 http://support.veritas.com/docs/336166

I'm a little curious if you had a reason for starting this thread beyond getting your 1 point, however.  ;-)

OK, I see you also posted some Known Issues for OpsCenter.  Where'd you get those?  Hopefully we fix most of them before 7.0 comes out!

gavrilov, I think we're done bringing folks into this beta but it doesn't cost you anything to send an email to the address listed in that TechNote - worst that happens is they tell you "no."  :)

CRZ, you are right. 
But then you see that the shop is "closed" i think it's not always good to knoсk and ask "Is it really closed?" :)

 Crz.. i want to get more experience in Netbackup 7. this is not meant to get points.

that known issues is given by a symantec guy who is contacting Netbackup 7 beta.

I would like to know how other guys are doing with in their environment.

This post is just for guys who are testing Netbackup 7 in their. they can post their activities and issues facing.

Hope you got my point.

Datacenters in Virtual Center Server are located in a folder and when tries to browse for virtual machines in the backup policy,
nothing shows up and no errors.

When moves the datacenters  from the folder , so that they are directly under the virtual center, the browse for virtual machines works just fine.

one of the features i liked is policy auditing in opscenter. You can keep track of policy changes and also gives you option to restore older version of the policy.

If any one has used 7.0 wanted to know what is the upgrade process from 6.5 to 7.. nbpushdata is required or it is plain upgrade like 6.0 to 6.5?

If you are talking about 7.0 Beta it only supports clean installation.

Quote from NB70_Beta_Priemer.pdf
"Upgrades from a previous NetBackup Alpha, Beta, or an earlier version of
NetBackup to this Beta release are not supported."

For beta release clean install is alright..but once 7.0 is released there must be option to upgrade from previous enterprise release like 6.5

1. Detailed policy change interface
2. Vm dns,display,uid name in a single policy
3. Windows NT policy type renamed to mswindows
and more

Does this Support VMware servers backed up directly without a VCB?

It will be interesting to see what recommendations/procedures are to upgrade for some server platforms. From the NetBackup 7 primer doc I read they are removing 32bit binaries of the software in favour of 64bit . Thats great.

But, I have a 32bit SLES 10 install as my NetBackup Master, running of course what was available at the time - 32 bit binaries for NetBackup 6.5
Now they are only releasing 64 bit binaries for v 7.0 of NetBackup servers on SLES.

So a new OS install, and fresh NB install if going to NetBackup 7.0? Then recover catalog?

Does anyone know if you can run NetBackup OPScenter in a NetBackup 6.5 environment? The reason I am asking is that we try to run NOM but it crashed a few weeks ago and we havn't been able to solve the problem and get the NOM up and running again (not even symantec support).

Kind Regards
Andreas

Hi Andreas,

I am also looking for that information. If you able to ind can you share it with me.

Thanks

I am in the process of getting my hands on th 7.0 Ops Center Code.  Once I have tested it I will reply with my results.

I found the following white paper

http://eval.symantec.com/mktginfo/enterprise/white...

The OpsCenter Agent collects data from various Symantec and third-party backup/ archiving products. These products can reside on the OpsCenter Agent host or on remote hosts. The OpsCenter Agent relies on the Java Runtime Environment (JRE) to perform its functions. The OpsCenter Agent also requires embedded AT (Symantec Product Authentication Service) to authenticate itself with the OpsCenter Server. Both JRE and AT libraries are installed automatically with the Agent installation. OpsCenter Agent is supported on Windows and Solaris platforms.

OpsCenter formats the information collected by the OpsCenter Agent from the following target products and displays it through the OpsCenter console

 Symantec NetBackup (versions prior to 7)
 Symantec Backup Exec (Windows only)
 Symantec Enterprise Vault (Windows only)
 EMC Legato Networker
 IBM Tivoli Storage Manager

So... it looks like the answer, as everyone assumed, is YES!

 When can i expect Netbackup 7.0 Official Full release?

It should be available on FileConnect right now.  I believe it was available from Wednesday.

I have downloaded 7.0 from File Connect.

Some interesting notes:

ICS, Docs, OpsCenter, Java, and Server are now packaged within the same image (fewer downloads, and a DVD image rather than CD images)

NetBackup 6.5 was ~35 CD-ROMS, 7.0 boils down to 11 DVD Images

15.5 GB Total download (18 Files)

Real Time Protection, and the Windows Install files come in multi-part downloads

copy /b "NetBackup_7.0_Win_GA-zip.1of2"+"NetBackup_7.0_Win_GA-zip.2of2", "NetBackup_7.0_Win_GA.zip"

copy /b "NetBackup_RealTime_Protection_7.0_EN.iso.1of3"+"NetBackup_RealTime_Protection_7.0_EN.iso.2of3"+"NetBackup_RealTime_Protection_7.0_EN.iso.3of3" , "NetBackup_RealTime_Protection_7.0_EN.iso"

All on one line.

I have no File Connect credentials, how should we do?

NetBackup for VMware:

Its a new feature added to Netbackup 7, can anyone tell me why we can't take backup of virtual images via Netbackup 6.x
I am aware of Microsoft system data center protection software used for virtual images, but why not Netbackup 6.x.

Getting ready to install 7.0 on my production environment and saw this:

Starting with NetBackup 7.0, VSP is no longer supported. That leaves Microsoft’s Volume Shadow Copy Services (VSS) as the only choice for an open file backup for Windows clients. In addition, there is a binary incompatibility in the 32-bit Windows XP version of VSS. For this reason, NetBackup does not support VSS on the 32-bit Windows XP operating system. Therefore, there are no supported, open file backup solutions for this platform. Symantec recommends that you leave 32-bit Windows XP clients at the latest level of NetBackup 6.5 and do not upgrade them to NetBackup 7.0. That enables you to use VSP to continue to support open file backup, which is still supported on the latest NetBackup 6.5 version.

Gerald- Thanks for your sharing.. Nice to hear this kind of Points instead reading docs and get all informations..

I don't have much time to study all docs :-) but i know without reading nothing is possible :-)

A lot of changes to 7.0 better start reading. Did you know also that you cannot perform HOST deduplication on Windows 2003 x86 systems? Only x64 supported and you require Microsoft .NET 3.5 SP1.

The following is a list of the supported platforms for NetBackup Deduplication:
■ Solaris SPARC 10 x64
Solaris requires an encryption package (SUNWcry64). You must download and
install the package. It is not part of the Solaris installation media, and Symantec
cannot distribute the package.
■ Red Hat Enterprise Linux:
Supported Platforms
About server and client platform support
26
■ Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4.5 x64 (and higher)
■ Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.x x64 (and higher)
On Red Hat Linux, configure the shared memory to be at least 128MB
(SHMMAX=128MB). If you do not, deduplication processes may not start, or
run correctly.
■ SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 (SLES 10) x64
The SUSE Linux system must be at patch level 2.
■ Windows 2003 x64
Windows 2003 SP2 x64 systems require Microsoft .NET 3.5 SP1.
■ Windows 2008 x64
■ Windows 2008 R2 x64
Linux systems must have at least the same amount of swap space as physical
memory space. If swap space is less than physical memory, database problems
may affect installation and performance.

 

Hi Gerald,
I'm quite excited about your imminent upgrade - let us know how it goes...
Just one thing - have you double-checked your license keys? The dedup function is separately licensed and requires disk storage.

Hello

How did you manage to upgrade all Windows clients at once? Were you using Browser.exe file? For me reinstalling/upgrading with browser.exe client will get hostname instead off FQHN and connection to Master server suffers.

@Marianne - will sure keep you guys posted and am crossing my fingers everything goes well.
@gameover - I haven't done the upgrade yet but I think network install should simplify the clients installation.

Q. I am an existing NetBackup customer; is there a charge for upgrading?
A. No. For customers who are on current maintenance, upgrading to NetBackup 7 is free. However, it is important to note that
such advanced features as deduplication, replication, and analytics reporting—which are now integrated into NetBackup
7—do need to be purchased as licensed add-ons. So customers who have not licensed these capabilities in their previous
NetBackup 6.x environment will need to purchase an add-on license for these advanced features, often at a discounted price.

That if the previous 6.5 version of the data de-duplication puredisk's license is exist , does it necessory to  buy the netbackup 7.0' de-duplication license?

Hi Guys,

I have upgraded our full production environment to 7 and it went without a hitch. We have all Windows servers currently running 2003 R2 64x / 2008.

Client upgrades works fine using the push function for 32 and 64bit. I wouldn't reccommend doing it on a MS cluster though!

If you have any windows 2000 or NT severs they are not supported on 7 so leave the clients on 6.5 and it all works ok. This is due to the VSP not being used anymore and only VSS being used in 7.

Slight tweaks required in the VMware polices if you want to take advantage of the vstorage api's which need to be change to full mapped VM's to use block level incremental backups with full backups.

Dedupe looks very good but once configured with a username and password it cant be changed or completely uninstalled and requires a rebuild/reinstall of NetBackup if you want to put it back on the same storage/media server so be warned!

We have a windows Server 2008 R2 that we will be putting into Netbackup 7.0 to be a master. Will we be able to use the PDDO plugin for puredisk 6.6 SPA? We don't want to have to rebuild any storage pool for deduplication. It would be nice if this is still compatible.

The best place to find information at this point in time is the NBU7 documentation.
PDDO is covered in the Deduplication Guide.

 Great OpsCenter on NetBackup 7.0 supports to control below backup/archiving products.

Symantec NetBackup 6.0 MP7, 6.5 and higher Symantec NetBackup 7.0 and higher Symantec NetBackup PureDisk 6.2.x, 6.5.x, 6.6 Symantec Backup Exec 10.x, 11.x, 12.x Symantec Enterprise Vault 7.5, 8.0 EMC Legato NetWorker 6.x, 7.3 IBM Tivoli Stoarage Manager (TSM) 5.3, 5.4, 5.5 from Symantec NetBackup ™ Enterprise Server and Server 7.x OS 
  Software Compatibility List

ftp://exftpp.symantec.com/pub/support/products/Net...
 

I dont want this Thread Subject to be "Known Issues" , I am feeling NetBackup 7.0 is too Good.. We all guys share our  Experience on NetBackup 7.0 Here..

Appreciate your comments. Thanks !

Just finished upgrading to 7.0, everything seems to be running smoothly but will definitely keep a close eye this evening.
 
Platform windows 2003 SP2, 1 master, 7 Full media servers and 1 Opscenter. Just remembered to configure email notifications - on 7.0 the nbmail.cmd is installed on goodies directory instead of bin directory.

For those who have upgraded, im curious what types of backups you are performing?  Which options are you all using?

For example, i am using:

-File level backups for:

• windows 2003 x86/x64
• windows 2008 R2
• Solaris 9/10 SPARC
• RHEL4/5 x64

-Data Base options:

• Oracle
• SQL
• Exchange 2007

-VMware

• Using VCB 1.51 

-NDMP

• NetApp filer - just backing up file shares direct over SAN.

This will help the rest of us understand how to compare to our own environments.

I must admit 7.0 is very stable and runs smoothly. Almost one week since upgrade and not a single issue. My catalogs backups (images) was very slow at first - has been slowing down since 6.5.2A but I managed to fix it with Marianne's help!
 
Not happy with Opscenter still but overall..........Kudos Symantec

You mention better Sharepoint Granular Recovery, but I haven't found any documentation on the differences between this and 6.5.4.  Does anyone know what is "better" about it?

I'm receiving tons of socket read write errors, the processors (2 dual cores) get pegged at 100% at night, and there are thousands of processes.  After a reboot the processes go down to a couple of hundred but keep growing in number.  The processes are mostly vnetd, bpstsinfo and bpcd.  Occasionally the console won't open either, and lots of backup job failures.  I'm putting in a support call even after just finishing one.  Repairs don't work either...conflicting with msi.exec.

Have anyone use NetBackup v.7 to protect Hyper-V R2 Clusters with CSV enabled?  Does it works without any problems???

Please let me know as I have a new client who contracted me to deploy the cluster in the next days and he is considering buying NetBackup 7 to protect the infrastructure.  Please give me any details that you consider important.

Thanks in advance!

Jose Angel Rivera.

This works absolutely fine as per the admin guide - just setup a policy pointing to the cluster, search for virtual machines and add them in.  Note it won't automatically back up all VMs or pick up new ones.

Minor gotcha - it appears that full backups of fixed VHDs backup the entire disk even if it is mostly empty. 

I'd also watch out trying to backup all of the VMs simultaneously as you could get disk contention.  I limit to 1 job per policy and have one policy per LUN - depends on how your clsuter disks are laid out.

I appreciate your help.  Do you know where can I find that "Admin Guide" that you refer??  I really need to read it!!

Hey 
Does Netbackup 7.0 support windows server 2008 HPC ??

Hi All,

May I know where can I download Netbackup 7 trial software ?

I have physical Solaris SPARC 10 x64 that I'd like to backup as whole image (more like BESR 2010) I've tried with BE 2010 RALUS but it can only backup flat file not even open file :-|

You can not download netbackup trial. You have to contact a sales rep. And netbackup is not so straight forward as BENT or BESR are.

With netbackup you can have a full solaris (and other unix systems) recovery with BMR or backup and restore a row disk with flashbackup. (with flashbackup you cannot backup the” boot” disk.
 

hi all,

my contarct is via SUN, how can i get the serial number then ?

Hi Forum,

Is any OS changes required, any patches etc to be done before upgrading to NBU7.

 

Thanks in Advance.

Is there any way where i can get a trial or eval license keys.