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  • 1.  New SEPM console has a little issue... well, big issue?

    Posted Nov 04, 2013 12:42 PM

    12.1.4 - SEPM installed to SEPM server, used a workstation to connect to SEPM and launch the console (I always do the console from a workstation, not on the server itself - we avoid doing a login on the server's os and console as then if we crash - we've crashed a server)

    Take a look - I think this screenshot says it all - and if you can't figure it out, take a close look at the top row - the column headings, and then the information that is contiained within each column and see if they go along with the headings, and also know that OUR computer IP addresses are the ones ending with .81 and .73 and .20................

    Log out, log in, reload console, doesn't matter.

    I think I'll break our standard practice, remote in to a server and launch the console directly on the server itself....... wow. Guess it's time to beta test this release.  surprise  Kidding - but it would be nice to find out if others see this "bug" as well, and what the "fix" is, if there is any, or the cause or whatever.

    Thanks.

     

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  • 2.  RE: New SEPM console has a little issue... well, big issue?

    Posted Nov 04, 2013 12:47 PM

    I'm working on the upgrade right now in my test environment but it appears to be hung angry

    I'll test it out when I get there though.



  • 3.  RE: New SEPM console has a little issue... well, big issue?

    Trusted Advisor
    Posted Nov 04, 2013 01:53 PM

    Hello,

    Could you please provide me some insight from which version of SEPM did you migrate to SEPM 12.1.4?

    I am currently working with Backline Teams on this issue.

    I would request you to contact Symantec Technical Support and create a case. Once done, please PM me the case #.

    Check these Steps below:

    How to create a new case in MySymantec

    http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH58873

    Phone numbers to contact Tech Support:-

    Regional Support Telephone Numbers:

    • United States: https://support.broadcom.com (407-357-7600 from outside the United States)
    • Australia: 1300 365510 (+61 2 8220 7111 from outside Australia)
    • United Kingdom: +44 (0) 870 606 6000

    Additional contact numbers: http://www.symantec.com/business/support/contact_t...

    Hope that helps!!


  • 4.  RE: New SEPM console has a little issue... well, big issue?

    Posted Nov 04, 2013 02:17 PM

    I launched the console directly from the SEPM. Everything appears as it should.

    I launched the remote console from my PC (latest java, 7 update 45) and everything appears as it should.



  • 5.  RE: New SEPM console has a little issue... well, big issue?

    Posted Nov 04, 2013 02:42 PM

    The SEPM servers are 2008R2. The SEPM version was 12.1.3, the release just prior to the current/new release 12.1.4

    I found a text file in the install files I had used on the prior version, so this is what it WAS prior to the latest upgrade -
    SEPM Version 12.1.3001.165

    It was an "in-place" install - I did it right over the top. 12.1.3 had been installed over the top of 12.1.2 as well.

    When I double-clicked the shortcut on my desktop it did launch a Java 7 install of something, perhaps it was updated JAVA files.

    By the way, I remoted to the SEPM server and launched the JAVA-based console directly on the server from the server - same exact thing, no difference.

    I choose network threat protection, attacks, past week, set to display 200, major severity if any of that matters.
    Left to right, the columns and headings agree up through "computer" but from there on rightward, it's off a column - things are shifted to the right as it seems to insert the OS version where the client user name would be. I've not seen the OS version display in this screen in prior versions before this.  if it did not display the OS, things would most likely line up ok. Maybe.

     



  • 6.  RE: New SEPM console has a little issue... well, big issue?

    Posted Nov 04, 2013 02:49 PM

    I set my filters the same way and still got the expected result. I've been doing in-place upgrades since about 11.0.5.

    I would check to see if maybe Java is the issue if you weren't on the latest. Other than, I'm not to sure why. We're also running the same OS type.



  • 7.  RE: New SEPM console has a little issue... well, big issue?

    Posted Nov 04, 2013 05:18 PM

    I just created a support request with resulting case number of  05421675

     

    I am looking at another potential issue as well but will handle that as a different item as it is more related to the client/server interaction.



  • 8.  RE: New SEPM console has a little issue... well, big issue?

    Posted Nov 04, 2013 05:26 PM

    Java runtime 1.7.0_09  (version 7 update 9)

    Last time I tried to run "the latest", SEPM refused to run properly and support said "you need to run the version we supply"......

    Will check the server version as it's likely different.  OK, verison 7 update 25 on the server - JAVA is under Symantec's SEPM folder there as we don't otherwise install or run JAVA on servers.

    So it's using version 7 on both, update 25 when I run it on the server, update 9 when I run it from my computer.

     



  • 9.  RE: New SEPM console has a little issue... well, big issue?

    Posted Nov 05, 2013 08:52 AM

    Here's the deal with JAVA - we have to control the versions of JAVA we use.

    A. for security - make sure we have a stable version, and that means it will not typically be the very latest bleeding-edge version but could be a rev back.
    B. Because everone and their uncle's best friend use JAVA for who the heck knows what reasoning, we have several, not 1 or 2 or 3, but several "consoles" and apps that rely on JAVA (programers find it easier to ride the backs of others instead of putting together a good, reliable, stable and fast console of their own? The lazy, albiet unreliable, way?)  Thius means we must run a JAVA version that will run all of the software we use and can't change or upgrade simply because one wrote to bugs instead of stable code. (again, why not get off this JAVA crutch and write a GOOD solid FAST and reliable C-based console app - it would be faster and more reliable and run on any computer regardless of the JAVA garbage installed - JAVA - which sucks resources faster than a Kirby vacuum)
    C. JAVA sucks resources, it's a black hole for memory and processor cycles. The more consoles and apps you run that rely on JAVA, the worse your computer runs and the more prone to crashes, lockups and so on. So we have to also find and stick with a JAVA build that seems to cause the least damage and will let us get the most work done. It's like choosing which gun you want to be shot with. None is a great choice, but you pick the one that will give the cleanest shot with the least pain! So we find a stable verison that meets A and B above and stick with it as long as possible, or until the ISO's office says we have to upgrade/update JAVA.

    and finally,. we do not install JAVA on servers. It's a huge securty risk, it sucks resources, causes crashes, it is unreliable and we simply don't want to deal with the mess JAVA creates, a spider web of updates and security issues with each new release. And no matter which version we choose, someone will cry that their stuff won't run on it - my response would be - then program away from JAVA and into the sane secure world of real good code, but no one likes to hear that as it's like I just poked some sacred cow.

    If the JAVA version is hinted at as the cause, I will have a real discussion with our sales person.
    As it is now I'm going to have to try AGAIN to convince a first level tech that I don't have time for a 1 hour support call while they webex in and have me try different JAVA and all the simple stuff. They need to email me with the info they need, I collect it when I can and get it back to them and not sit on a phone for a whole hour just collecing the basics.
    A. I'm hard of hearing - phone calls are not easy and when there's an accent involved, might as well be a different language.
    B. I can't tell anyone "what is the best time to call" as as soon as I say between x and y, then we end up in a meeting and I'm not here.
    C. I can't state and time and then sit at my desk waiting for a phone call.
    Send me a list of the required information for support, I will gather said information, send it along, and when that is reviewed, I will try whatever is suggested back to me. That used to be an option, but Symantec seems to refuse to work with customers who have "needs" and force the contract call system instead.

    This is why I don't create support tickets unless it's an emergency - because now I've got a tech who won't email me the questions but wants me to take an hour of my time and sit through level 1 basics.