Other install options
Updated: 21 May 2010 | 18 comments
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Guys,
About gettin a job to a client, one can drag the job to the client or drag the client to the job. But both dont seem secure(1 can easely install more computers). Are there other options dat are more secure?
regards,
Dre
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Security
You should be able to enable security and tweak the permissions. The other way would be to utilize DSWEB (the web interface). This seems to be an easier way to restrict this, however, it can be cumbersome to use.
Brian Hawver
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Yaskawa America, Inc.
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but there isnt an alternative
but there isnt an alternative for the drag and drop part when i want to install an image ????
Job scheduling wizard
You don't have to drag'n drop in the Win32 GUI, you can also use the Job Schedulig Wizard. This you can find under the Operations menu. The you selcetc the job and computer you want. Is that what you are looking for?
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Right click
You can also right click in either the Computers or Jobs section and select the Job scheduling wizard.
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that might be a sollution;
that might be a sollution; the jib scheduling wizard and a way to disable drag and drop
I do not think it is posible
I do not think it is posible to disable Drag'n drop. You will have to either trust that your DS users knows what they are doing. But another option could be implementing Security.
In my opinion DS i quite a dangerous tool, where you have to be very alert of what you are doing..... So it is not a good idea to use the tool after 14 hours straight work ;)
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well, the last months some
well, the last months some tired engineers dragged the jobs to too many computers; thats why i am searching a different way of getting the job to the clients.
Consequences
I've learned over time, the only way to combat that is to either enable security or to enforce consequences on the offending parties (i.e. a write up, a fine, etc.). I've found fines work the best as there are no job related consequences and the money can be used to benefit the entire group (sort of like a swear jar or something similar).
I've also found it's best to train the staff to drag the computer to the job and not the other way around. Also, I train them to click the second tab of the scheduling window to ensure that the correct machine(s) is(are) being scheduled.
Brian Hawver
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we do that; dragging the job
we do that; dragging the job to the computers. But last month something went wrong; 100 computers got installed instead of 1. We still dont know what happened. Maybe we should train the people to click the second tab but still, they can click too fast.
Suggestion
In your post above, you mention that you are dragging the job to the computer. This is where most mistakes are made (accidentally gets dragged to the wrong computer or gets dragged to the folder containing all of the computers). It's better to drag the computer to the job. This way, if you intend to run a job on 100 computers, you can drag the folder to the job, instead of accidentally dragging the job to 100 computers that you didn't want it run on....make sense?
Brian Hawver
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Yaskawa America, Inc.
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Yup, makes sense and thats
Yup, makes sense and thats the way we work. the only problem is that even this way of working can cause erorrs and thats why i am looking for a different way of sending jobs to client and disabeling the drag and drop functionality
I wrote ImageInvoker a little
I wrote ImageInvoker a little while ago which gets around the need for lots of techhies logging into the DS console for day-to-day tasks. Imaging is done client side by booting into Linux automation and choosing the desired job from an image menu.
This only works however for imaging at the desk so to speak, but completely eliminates the issue of techies imaging the wrong computer!
http://www.symantec.com/connect/articles/imageinvo...
Ian Atkin, Senior Developer for the ICT Support Team, Oxford University, UK
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aaah. can you give me some
aaah. can you give me some real time examples when one can use image invoker?
The most common use is for
I also have menu options for disk wipes, disk uploads and such like. Anything you can do in a job you can pretty much do with ImageInvoker.
Ian Atkin, Senior Developer for the ICT Support Team, Oxford University, UK
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and i still need to add the
and i still need to add the pc's macadres into altiris deployment??
No -the imaging menu creates
No -the imaging menu creates the computer objects automatically if they don't exist. The idea is that for most of the common imaging tasks the DS Console should be redundant.
Our helpdesk staff now no longer need to be trained to use Deployment Solution. They are now given a few minutes training on using the ImageInvoker menu and that's it.
Kind Regards,
Ian./
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and what about the deployment
and what about the deployment structure; we got groups for every site and for desktop/notebooks. And how do you define a computername? from within imageinvoker?
Hi, By default ImageInvoker
Hi,
By default ImageInvoker allows you to change the name of the target computer before imaging. The default computer name is,
As for DS console group structures, re-imaging computers using ImageInvoker will preserve their place in the structure. This is one of the features which sets it apart from forcing Initial Deployment (which moves computers back into the console root).
If you image computers which aren't in the DS Console, these will however appear by default in the root. To cater for this, we implement a policy for a DS Administrator give the console a tidy-up each week, so that new PCs can be filed into their appropriate group.
Kind Regards,
Ian./
Ian Atkin, Senior Developer for the ICT Support Team, Oxford University, UK
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