Video Screencast Help
Search Video Help Close Back
to help
Not able to make it to Vision this year? Get a sampling in the Best of Vision on Demand group.

SEPM 11 RU7 MP1 - don't want to process definitions

Created: 12 Dec 2011 | 9 comments
grozdani's picture
0 0 Votes
Login to vote

Hello guys,

One of my SEPMs stopped processing x32 x64 bit definitions. It seems to be stuck ( as it displays so on 2011-12-07 rev.036 ) and the full.zip files are present for each day from 07.12 afterwards, but the SEPM, doesn't chop them, doesn't update itself, doesn't process any delta/ It just stopped like from nothing.

 

Already tried http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH104721

and also tried using the jdb file - yes it takes the .jdb and puts it in C:\Program Files (x86)\Symantec\Symantec Endpoint Protection Manager\Inetpub\content\{C60DC234-65F9-4674-94AE-62158EFCA433} and the result is all the same.

SEPM is installed on Win 2k8 x64 bit.

Let me know if I have to share some more info...

Comments

pete_4u2002's picture
12
Dec
2011
0 Votes 0
Login to vote

you need to put in different

you need to put in different folder (C:\Program Files (x86)\Symantec\Symantec Endpoint Protection Manager\data\inbox\content\incoming

http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH102607

Marius Salay's picture
12
Dec
2011
0 Votes 0
Login to vote

Hello there, we had the same

Hello there,

we had the same issue here!

Try the following and give me a reply!

https://www-secure.symantec.com/connect/articles/how-clear-corrupt-virus-definitions-sepm

Regards

Marius

grozdani's picture
12
Dec
2011
0 Votes 0
Login to vote

Thanks for the replies

Thanks for the replies guys,

but still not good, or let's say the situation is the same. The result is as follows

1) Cleaned everything according to the Marius' link

2) After I ran the LU from within SEPM, the 32bit/64 bit Inetpub\Content folders were populated again...but till rev. 021 ( 111207021 ) for 32 bit and till rev. 036 for 64 bit ( 111207036 ). Btw, just of curiousity - SEPM use to display in home page 32 bit rev. or 64 bit rev. number of the currently used defs ? ( mine is showing 2011-12-07 rev.036.

3 ) Just to confirm that internet connection is working and it's fine, proxy is set correctly as well ( I see the correct Windows Latest Symantec Verion displayed as 2011-12-11 rev.006 )

4) Downloaded the .jdb file - it's processed and I see full.zip within C:\Program Files (x86)\Symantec\Symantec Endpoint Protection Manager\Inetpub\content\{C60DC234-65F9-4674-94AE-62158EFCA433}\111211006...but that's is, no deltas no chop shop...there is only the full.zip created from the jdb

5) Ran the dbvalidator - it shows everything to be OK. Why SEPM don't want to go for the newest named folder and put the defs into the DB....

Thanks again if you can guide me where to look at...lunchtime and call to Symantec are the next priorities :)

pete_4u2002's picture
12
Dec
2011
0 Votes 0
Login to vote

delta will be created if

delta will be created if there are other revision of definition.

Marius Salay's picture
12
Dec
2011
0 Votes 0
Login to vote

did you config your sepm to

did you config your sepm to store old definitions? SEP needs older definitions in combination with the new ones to destill deltas ot of them. Normally, 3 revisions/day are provided by symantec...

grozdani's picture
12
Dec
2011
0 Votes 0
Login to vote

Hi Guys, yep, I am aware of

Hi Guys,

yep, I am aware of that. As requested by customer we keep 90 revisions in order to minimize the trraffic for machines whic are rarely connecting.

I checked that we have no diskspace issue on both SEPM and SQL...the current configuration is running fine for almost 2 years. I've upgraded to RU7MP1 immediately after it was released, there is no significant growth in the clients as well.

LU is downloading the correct signatures ( I can paste the Log.Liveupdate after I've reinstalled LU 3.3) and again after appling the .jdb.

In 32 bit SEPM def folder {C60DC234-65F9-4674-94AE-62158EFCA433} :

111207021 - the one that I called it stuck is having deltas and so one

111211006 - the newer one is staying with full.zip content...and that's it

Is there a way to check if the SQL instance is OK ( just to double check that there is enough space available to upload the definitions from the SEPM to the DB ) ?

Marius Salay's picture
12
Dec
2011
0 Votes 0
Login to vote

Hello grodani,   thanks for

Hello grodani,

 

thanks for the answer.

Well, then we should give it a try and force the SEPM to create deltas for testings:

Try the following: http://test-inquira.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH106032&actp=search&viewlocale=en_US&searchid=1323696439908

 

regards,

 

Marius

grozdani's picture
12
Dec
2011
0 Votes 0
Login to vote

Hi guys, lucky me the issue

Hi guys,

lucky me the issue disappeared. I hate to say "disappered" and "fixed by itself "...but.

As I thought and think is correct SEPM LU and .jdb methods worked fine, so I focused on the SQL, since the situation was - definitions were present locally on the SEPMs, but not being processed. I guess the data flow is like this : SEPM downloads whatever defs are needed, the full.zip is going the SQL and right after that split into whatever pieces are needed. But if that transfer of full.zip fails, SEPM use the last used and stored defs in the SQL.

I don't know if I'm right, but after I've decreased the number of revisions kept to 30 and tuned a little bit the Log Settings - voila it's with latest defs now.

I'll be extremely happy if we keep this discussion open and track back the issue :

- Was the SQL instance limited ( Don't know where to look, but will find and reply here how I've tracked it back )

- Is the flow of definitions correct ? Downloaded to SEPM->Put to the SQL -> Processed by the SEPM ? I'm interested in whether this is possible or not ? ( HDD space available on SQL server was above 35 GB on each partition, so somebody have set some limitation )

 

Thanks Everybody for the Great Support ! Have a nice and happy holidays !

Jeremy.L's picture
12
Dec
2011
0 Votes 0
Login to vote

Hi,    It seems to me like a

Hi,

   It seems to me like a disk space issue, either on the SEPM (check both C: and the SEPM partition or a FG szie issue on the SQL server.

Sesmlu logs from the /tomcat/logs folder may help.

Definition flow is as follow :

- LU downloads the definition from internet
- SEPM service processes it and stores it in the database
- SEPM service on each SEPM linked to the DB, makes it available to clients in the /inetpub/content folder
- index files in data/outbox/agent are updated to reflect the new definitions being available.
- When clients request the definitions and also currently have definitions still available in the SEPM database, a delta is created and made available, otherwise the client is directed to download the full.zip.

Regards,

--
Symantec Support
MCSE / CCNA