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SEPM 12.4 - Application Monitoring/Exception for .MSI file?!

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Migration UserFeb 27, 2014 01:06 PM

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  • 1.  SEPM 12.4 - Application Monitoring/Exception for .MSI file?!

    Posted Feb 27, 2014 12:31 PM

    Hello Community!

    I am trying to add an application monitor/exception for a .MSI file but am finding that the Endpoint Protection Manager Console will only monitor executables (.exe) and the exception for .msi that I currently have doesn't seem to work. Is there any way to add an applicaiton to monitor or an exception to a .msi file? What about DLL files?

    The reason I am trying to do this, is because I strongly believe I am getting a false positive for an application called SubtitlePlusApp (http://www.subtitleplus.com/splus001/www/index.html). It resides in a users downloads folder during detection (e.g. - C:\Users\%USERNAME%\Downloads\subtitleplusapp.msi)

     

    Any help would be awesome as I am getting tired of all the alerts :p

     

    Thank you!

     

    --

    Casey



  • 2.  RE: SEPM 12.4 - Application Monitoring/Exception for .MSI file?!

    Posted Feb 27, 2014 12:32 PM

    You can only add .exe files when it comes to the app monitoring feature.

    Have you tried setting an exception for the file?



  • 3.  RE: SEPM 12.4 - Application Monitoring/Exception for .MSI file?!

    Posted Feb 27, 2014 12:38 PM

    Edit# I understand it now :) 

    does that show up under detected list?



  • 4.  RE: SEPM 12.4 - Application Monitoring/Exception for .MSI file?!

    Posted Feb 27, 2014 12:41 PM

    Yes I had tried to add a file exception but it didn't work as I was alerted again. 

    I didn't have the exact file path listed the first time I tried to create the file exception. Maybe this was the issue? I thought I had read somewhere that if you don't define the file path, it should still work.



  • 5.  RE: SEPM 12.4 - Application Monitoring/Exception for .MSI file?!

    Posted Feb 27, 2014 12:44 PM

    It should still work but you can define the path to get more granular.

    When you go back into the application to monitor section and select application, it should bring up a list of already detected apps, does this partuclar one show up?



  • 6.  RE: SEPM 12.4 - Application Monitoring/Exception for .MSI file?!

    Posted Feb 27, 2014 12:50 PM

    Can you post the screen shot please? Just wanted to see if its blocking the file or the application ( executable) .msi should be treated as an installer.



  • 7.  RE: SEPM 12.4 - Application Monitoring/Exception for .MSI file?!

    Posted Feb 27, 2014 12:52 PM

    Negative. The applicaiton does not come up in that list.

    That is of course if it has the same name. I also looked at the same location it was detected. Nothing.



  • 8.  RE: SEPM 12.4 - Application Monitoring/Exception for .MSI file?!

    Posted Feb 27, 2014 12:55 PM

    Are you seeing anything in the Risk logs to indicate the file is being acted on?



  • 9.  RE: SEPM 12.4 - Application Monitoring/Exception for .MSI file?!

    Posted Feb 27, 2014 12:59 PM

    Here is a screenshot of the original detection (in the form of an email to our Helpdesk application):

    SEP - Detection.jpg

     

    Here is a screenshot of the Monitor/Exceptions I have created:

    Sep Detection - Application Exceptions.jpg

    It looks like the detection is looking inside a .zip? Would the file need to be extracted first?



  • 10.  RE: SEPM 12.4 - Application Monitoring/Exception for .MSI file?!

    Posted Feb 27, 2014 01:03 PM

    In many cases, SEP can extract the file from the zip to scan it.

    Has the policy update propagated down to the client?



  • 11.  RE: SEPM 12.4 - Application Monitoring/Exception for .MSI file?!

    Posted Feb 27, 2014 01:06 PM

    Heres the risk log:

    SEP Detection - Risk Log.jpg



  • 12.  RE: SEPM 12.4 - Application Monitoring/Exception for .MSI file?!

    Posted Feb 27, 2014 01:08 PM

    I really do appreciate your guys' help with this!

     

    I'm not sure what you mean by propogate down to the client. I don't know how to tell if it has or not



  • 13.  RE: SEPM 12.4 - Application Monitoring/Exception for .MSI file?!

    Posted Feb 27, 2014 01:10 PM

    On the client if you go to Help >> Troubleshooting, you will see the policy serial number which you can compare to what's in the SEPM

    In the SEPM on the client tab, select the group the client is in and select the Details tab at the top. it will show the policy serial number.

    Ensure both are matching



  • 14.  RE: SEPM 12.4 - Application Monitoring/Exception for .MSI file?!

    Posted Feb 27, 2014 01:26 PM

    They are the same policy serial number



  • 15.  RE: SEPM 12.4 - Application Monitoring/Exception for .MSI file?!

    Posted Feb 27, 2014 01:28 PM

    I see this is from the scheduled scan, what happens if you try to run the file in real time? does auto-protect catch it?



  • 16.  RE: SEPM 12.4 - Application Monitoring/Exception for .MSI file?!

    Posted Feb 27, 2014 02:19 PM

    It installs perfectly then I get a detection:

    SubtitlePlusApp - Detection.jpg

    I then created an Application to Monitor using st2scc.exe and could not find st2scc.exe in the application list.

    I did notice that in the zip file it comes with a setup.exe and SubtitlePlusApp2.msi. I looked through all (theres a lot) of the setup.exe entries in the Application Detection list and none of them appeared relevant.



  • 17.  RE: SEPM 12.4 - Application Monitoring/Exception for .MSI file?!

    Posted Feb 27, 2014 02:23 PM

    It may take a little time to show up, depending on how often your clients check in.



  • 18.  RE: SEPM 12.4 - Application Monitoring/Exception for .MSI file?!

    Posted Feb 27, 2014 03:23 PM

    How will I know when it works or not? I won't get the alerts anymore? :p



  • 19.  RE: SEPM 12.4 - Application Monitoring/Exception for .MSI file?!

    Posted Feb 27, 2014 03:25 PM

    Essentially, yes :)