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SetupCapture and Windows x64

Updated: 08 Jun 2010 | 15 comments
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Hi there,

Are there any known issues regarding SetupCature and Windows x64?

Im currently trying to repackage a x64 bit application and ran against the issue that some dll registration information is not captured at all

After investigation with procmon ive noticed that only the 32bit keys were captured (Equals to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wow6432Node from x64 perspective)
All keys directly under HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT (native x64) were lost.

How can i ensure that also the 64bit Keys are being captured? Or isnt this technically possible because SetupCapture is a 32Bit Process?

any help would be appreciate.

Thanks,
Fabio

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EdT's picture
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Which product are you using?

Normally, it helps us to know which product you are using when you ask a specific question, but since capture is involved, I will assume you have a version of Wise Package Studio.

Currently, none of the Wise Package Studio releases have a capture tool capable of performing a 64 bit capture. As you have already observed, the existing capture tool is a 32 bit application and thus blocked by Windows from having access to the 64 bit registry.

To my knowledge, there are no freely available capture tools that are written for the 64 bit environment, unless the latest releases of products such as InstallShield or InstallAware have finally introduced such a tool.

I suspect that the delay in creating such tools is due to current (non MSI) installers being unable to write to the 64 bit registry. Therefore any installers for 64 bit applications are most likely already written as MSI files and there is no need to capture them.

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EdT, We are currently using

EdT,

We are currently using Wise Package Studio 7 SP3, afaik the latest version available.

Ive already looked at the Acresso Product Lineup but correct me if i'm wrong:
InstallShield 2010 does not provide a repackaging utility and AdminStudio 9 is still based on InstallShield 2009 which doesnt support x64.

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I think, in fact, that if you

I think, in fact, that if you have IS 2010 installed and select 'InstallShield integration' when installing AS, it uses whatever's present. Don't quote me, though.

Don't know why 'x' happened? Want to know why 'y' happened? Use ProcMon and it will tell you.
Think about using http://www.google.com before posting.

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Affirmative

That product lineup sounds pretty much as I expected - the Installshield 2010 product is roughly equivalent to Wise Installation Studio - both are intended for software developers to package their creations, and not for software repackagers who need capture tools.
For repackagers, AdminStudio 9 remains the equivalent of Wise Package Studio - both have capture tools but no support for x64

Whether there are any free capture tools that have been rewritten for 64 bit operation is something I have not been able to track down so far.
If you are just interested in registry differences, one rather clunky way to get at this information is to use regedit to export the registry hive in question as a text file, install the software, re-export the hive as a text file, then use WinDiff to find the differences between the two text files.

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Edt, Ive already found a tool

Edt,

Ive already found a tool which allows exlusionslists & registry export:

Regshot Unicode X64.

Very nice snapshot tool.

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Do you have a URL ?

I'm sure I'm not the only person interested in a 64 bit snapshot tool, but googling on the name throws up lots of different versions and comments about many not working, so a link to your working version would be most helpful.

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Thanks!

Now all I need is a little Russian.....

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Its the submit button in the

Its the submit button in the bottom left ;-)

The application itself has a MUL Interface.

I've just successfully repackaged a x64 application, but it took me about a day to manually assign all registry/registration keys to the corresponding component. (Glad im using keyboard macros ;-))

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Maybe it's my paranoia...

...but I avoid downloading anything from a domain ending '.ru' (amongst others) unless I get a personal recommendation from a trusted source.

Don't know why 'x' happened? Want to know why 'y' happened? Use ProcMon and it will tell you.
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Definitely needs to be

Definitely needs to be installed on a VM first, then checked for rootkits and virus payloads.

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i'm using it for a couple of

i'm using it for a couple of months now and i never had any virus/trojan problems.

regards
Tino

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So...

...you can guarantee that it isn't "phoning home" with who knows what information? I'm sure it's fine, it's just my paranoia :)

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Regarding Adminstudio Material And workflow.

Can  you please help me where can i get the material for the INSTALLSHIELD ADMINSTUDIO.

I need step by step with snapshot. can you please help me.

becuse i have to start my job on 9th dec.

Please Erik,
Replay me as soon as possible

 
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Should you even be in this profession?

Erik,
Assuming you are asking this question seriously, I have to ask whether you should be looking for a career change, as you clearly have very few IT skills at all.
The most basic search on Google or even typing www.installshield.com in your browser would take you to the Installshield website. Further on, the www.installsite.org website has extensive forums discussing all aspects of Installshield products.
However, forums are not intended to provide step by step training.
Here is an idea - download an EVALUATION copy of Adminstudio from Installshield and do some work for yourself to familiarise with Adminstudio. Try reading the manual - that should give you the necessary basics for using the capture tools.

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