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*Some* clients are not updating their information on the SEPM but appear as connected (and update themselves correctly)

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  • 1.  *Some* clients are not updating their information on the SEPM but appear as connected (and update themselves correctly)

    Posted Aug 27, 2013 10:46 AM

    I'm having a rather odd issue.

    We have an installation with 170 endpoints, 15 of which show as "outdated", but have actually the most up-to-date virus definitions. These endpoints show as connected on the console.

    If I delete them, they register automatically afterwards, and now show as "updated", even though the server console still shows old virus definitions.

    If I send a remote command from the console, for example a scan, the client executes it, but the server never hears about it completing.

    Finally when I look at the syslog.log in the client, it doesn't have any entries saying that it connected to the server. It's almost as if it were not even trying...

    The SEPM is running 12.1.1000, as are the clients.

    I honestly don't know what can be happening. Does anybody have any clue?

    Thanks,

    Jaime



  • 2.  RE: *Some* clients are not updating their information on the SEPM but appear as connected (and update themselves correctly)

    Broadcom Employee
    Posted Aug 27, 2013 10:48 AM

    look for the communication part in the sylink log



  • 3.  RE: *Some* clients are not updating their information on the SEPM but appear as connected (and update themselves correctly)

    Posted Aug 27, 2013 10:49 AM

    Two things can help

    1) upgrade to 12.1.3 as it seems to be a common issue

    http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH206828

    Clients do not update definitions downloaded from Symantec Endpoint Protection Manager

    Fix ID: 2715989

    Symptom: After the clients come out of standby, the definitions do not update until after Symantec Endpoint Protection Manager restarts.

    Solution: Fixed so that LiveUpdate restarts after the client computer recovers from standby.

    2)1. Browse to \Program Files\Symantec\Symantec Endpoint Protection Manager\data\outbox\agentinfo

    2. Look for any .err files or tmp files & Dat files

    3. If you find anything which is not processed by sepm then it might be the reason for the client data loss

    4. Stop SEPM services from services.msc 

    5. Delete all the files inside the location \Program Files\Symantec\Symantec Endpoint Protection Manager\data\inbox\agentinfo

    6. Restart the SEPM services.

    Check the SEPM now if still issue persist go for step 7

     

    7. Run the Management server configuration wizard.



  • 4.  RE: *Some* clients are not updating their information on the SEPM but appear as connected (and update themselves correctly)

    Posted Aug 27, 2013 10:50 AM

    Seems odd and I doubt each have corrupted defs.

    I would turn on sylink logging and let it run thru a few heartbeats and post the log here if you want it reviewed.



  • 5.  RE: *Some* clients are not updating their information on the SEPM but appear as connected (and update themselves correctly)

    Posted Aug 27, 2013 10:54 AM

    1) Thanks Rafeeq, but that does not seem to describe my issue, unless I'm not understanding it correctly.

    2) I did all that, repeatedly, except step 7, as I'm afraid of breaking something by running the wizard. As I said, the behaviour is only on a few clients.



  • 6.  RE: *Some* clients are not updating their information on the SEPM but appear as connected (and update themselves correctly)

    Posted Aug 27, 2013 10:58 AM

    under SEPM - admin - servers tab

    you can rebuild the indexes. can you run that to see if it completes successfuly?

    simillar issue with SEPM home tab

    Symantec Endpoint Protection Manager displays clients as offline even though the client is showing online



  • 7.  RE: *Some* clients are not updating their information on the SEPM but appear as connected (and update themselves correctly)

    Posted Aug 27, 2013 11:17 AM

    The index rebuild completes, but the issue persists.

    I'm collecting the Sylink log on two machines, one that updates successfully in the console and another one that doesn't.

    Once I've compared and sanitized both (and removed protected company info) I will post the results.



  • 8.  RE: *Some* clients are not updating their information on the SEPM but appear as connected (and update themselves correctly)

    Posted Aug 27, 2013 11:49 AM

    This is weird...

    In the machine that successfully updates, I find this sequence of events:

    08/27 17:08:40.838 [6636] <IndexHeartbeatProc>===UPLOAD STAGE===
    
    08/27 17:08:40.838 [6636] <PostEvent>going to post event=EVENT_SERVER_READY_TO_UPLOAD_EVENT_LOG
    
    08/27 17:08:40.838 [6636] <PostEvent>done post event=EVENT_SERVER_READY_TO_UPLOAD_EVENT_LOG, return=0
    
    08/27 17:08:40.854 [6636] <IndexHeartbeatProc>===PREPARE EVENT LOG STAGE===
    
    [stuff happens]
    
    08/27 17:08:40.869 [6636] <IndexHeartbeatProc>===COMPRESS EVENT LOG STAGE===
    
    08/27 17:08:40.869 [6636] <IndexHeartbeatProc>===SEND EVENT LOG STAGE===
    
    [more stuff happens]
    
    08/27 17:08:41.025 [6636] <mfn_PostApplication>===SEND EVENT_SERVER_REQUIRES_CLIENT_APPLEARNING ===
    
    [more stuff happens]
    
    08/27 17:14:02.305 [6636] HEARTBEAT: Check Point 8
    
    08/27 17:14:02.305 [6636] <PostEvent>going to post event=EVENT_SERVER_DISCONNECTED
    
    08/27 17:14:02.305 [6636] <PostEvent>done post event=EVENT_SERVER_DISCONNECTED, return=0
     
    While in the "wrong" machine I find this:
     
    08/27 17:12:31.508 [8448] <IndexHeartbeatProc>===UPLOAD STAGE===
    
    08/27 17:12:31.508 [8448] <PostEvent>going to post event=EVENT_SERVER_READY_TO_UPLOAD_EVENT_LOG
    
    08/27 17:12:31.508 [8448] <PostEvent>done post event=EVENT_SERVER_READY_TO_UPLOAD_EVENT_LOG, return=0
    
    08/27 17:12:31.524 [8448] <PostEvent>going to post event=EVENT_SERVER_DISCONNECTED
    
    08/27 17:12:31.524 [8448] <PostEvent>done post event=EVENT_SERVER_DISCONNECTED, return=0
     
    It goes from "ready to upload" directly to "server disconnect", without doing anything O_O
     

     



  • 9.  RE: *Some* clients are not updating their information on the SEPM but appear as connected (and update themselves correctly)

    Posted Aug 27, 2013 12:24 PM

    open sep interface

    help and support troubleshooting

    do you see your sepm server name or server offline?



  • 10.  RE: *Some* clients are not updating their information on the SEPM but appear as connected (and update themselves correctly)

    Posted Aug 27, 2013 12:53 PM

    These seem to be client-side issues--it doesn't look like it's trying and failing... but rather, it's not trying at all to upload logs to the SEPM. Yet the client downloads content (and presumably policy changes, too) from the SEPM.

    Any differences between the SEP clients that upload logs as they should to the SEPM, and those that do not?

    • Different communication policies?
    • Different product versions?
    • Different operating systems?
    • Different SEP configurations (all components vs. AV and PTP only)?

    Just trying to figure out if there is anything that stands out, configuration-wise.

    sandra



  • 11.  RE: *Some* clients are not updating their information on the SEPM but appear as connected (and update themselves correctly)

    Posted Aug 28, 2013 02:40 AM

    Both clients are Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1, SEP version 12.1.1000.157 RU1

    Both are in the same group in the manager and their Sylink.xml is exactly the same.

    When I export troubleshooting information the contents of the file are word-for-word equal (except the machine-dependent information of course). Same if I export the policy.

    The only difference between configurations seems to be that in the LiveUpdate configuration the one that works is configured to use Internet default settings but the one thay doesn't has it configured explicitly (correctly it seems). Configuration is locked in bothe cases and provided by the installation (hmm, maybe they were installed with different installation packages?)

    If there's any difference it must be very hidden somewhere...

     



  • 12.  RE: *Some* clients are not updating their information on the SEPM but appear as connected (and update themselves correctly)

    Posted Aug 28, 2013 02:50 AM

    Any proxy configured?

    the log is not complete, if you could post one complete heartbeat then it would be easy to look for session disconnent events.

    Did you check Help and Support - to see if thats showing server name or server Offline.



  • 13.  RE: *Some* clients are not updating their information on the SEPM but appear as connected (and update themselves correctly)

    Posted Aug 28, 2013 02:52 AM

    Yes - it is showing.

    Where does the heartbeat begin and end? (So I can post one entire heartbeat).



  • 14.  RE: *Some* clients are not updating their information on the SEPM but appear as connected (and update themselves correctly)

    Posted Aug 28, 2013 02:53 AM

    The proxy is configured, and this setup comes from the manager.



  • 15.  RE: *Some* clients are not updating their information on the SEPM but appear as connected (and update themselves correctly)

    Posted Aug 28, 2013 03:07 AM

    Back up registry
    1. Click Start, and then click Run.
    2. In the Open box, type regedt32, and then click OK.
    3. Locate HKEY_USER\.DEFAULT\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\Connections\.
    4. Right Click on Connections from the menu, click Export.
    5. In the Save inbox, select a location in which to save the .reg file, type a file name in the File name box, and then click Save

    Remove DefaultConnectionSettings & SavedLegacySettings
    1. Delete the following registry keys:
    HKEY_USER\.DEFAULT\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\Connections\DefaultConnectionSettings
    HKEY_USER\.DEFAULT\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\Connections\SavedLegacySettings
    2. Reboot the system.

    Heart beat starts with Stage 1 ( you can see that in the log)

    http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH104926



  • 16.  RE: *Some* clients are not updating their information on the SEPM but appear as connected (and update themselves correctly)

    Broadcom Employee
    Posted Aug 28, 2013 03:13 AM

    post the entire log.



  • 17.  RE: *Some* clients are not updating their information on the SEPM but appear as connected (and update themselves correctly)

    Posted Aug 28, 2013 03:55 AM

    OK, I'll note this down to try later (clients are servers - cannot reboot them now).



  • 18.  RE: *Some* clients are not updating their information on the SEPM but appear as connected (and update themselves correctly)

    Posted Aug 28, 2013 04:07 AM

    Here are both logs. SylinkLog1 is the machine that works and SylinkLog2 is the machine that doesn't.

    Attachment(s)

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    SylinkLog1.txt   210 KB 1 version
    txt
    SylinkLog2.txt   125 KB 1 version


  • 19.  RE: *Some* clients are not updating their information on the SEPM but appear as connected (and update themselves correctly)

    Posted Aug 28, 2013 05:17 AM

    Hi

    Request you to upgrade to SEP 12.1.3

    Regards

     



  • 20.  RE: *Some* clients are not updating their information on the SEPM but appear as connected (and update themselves correctly)

    Posted Aug 28, 2013 06:25 AM

    I'd prefer not to, unless it's the only solution available.



  • 21.  RE: *Some* clients are not updating their information on the SEPM but appear as connected (and update themselves correctly)

    Posted Aug 28, 2013 10:57 AM

    So does anybody see anything strange in the logs?



  • 22.  RE: *Some* clients are not updating their information on the SEPM but appear as connected (and update themselves correctly)

    Posted Aug 28, 2013 11:39 AM

    Log looks fine apart failing to upload the events. Did you reboot after deleting the registry?

    IE versions same on working and non working machine?



  • 23.  RE: *Some* clients are not updating their information on the SEPM but appear as connected (and update themselves correctly)

    Posted Aug 28, 2013 11:43 AM

    I'm pretty sure they are, although, I'll check.

    I haven't been allowed to reboot them yet - will check when I can.



  • 24.  RE: *Some* clients are not updating their information on the SEPM but appear as connected (and update themselves correctly)

    Posted Aug 28, 2013 12:28 PM

    It is possible there may be duplicate HWID's in the environment, I have seen this throw off reporting in the SEPM before. Below is documentation on how to identify any possible duplicate ID's in your environment.

    http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH163349



  • 25.  RE: *Some* clients are not updating their information on the SEPM but appear as connected (and update themselves correctly)

    Posted Nov 27, 2013 05:04 AM

    Bump... The problem still exists, but in some cases it was resolved by rebooting the server. But we cannot reboot servers indiscriminately, and just rebooting the SEP service is no use. Is there any service that is known to help if restarted?