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Unscannable file rule getting me in trouble

Created: 20 Jul 2011 | 21 comments
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Hello.

I'm getting false alerts for some PDF, PPT and MPP files as an attachments for some e-mails.

My software version is the last one, 6.5.5.255.

This alerts is making my files corrupted and unreadable on my e-mail recipients.

Any help please?

 

Thank you.

 

Best Regards.

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Catching attachments as unscannable should not corrupt them

SMSMSE attempts to virus scan the attachments.  If it cannot decompose them properly it flags those as "unscannable" and quarantines them.  You should be able to release them from quarantine and open them.  If you are in fact finding the attachments are corrupted in the quarantine then you should open a support case for that issue.

Here is our main KB article on unscannable files: http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH79940.  Basically it says a list of reasons for unscannable and then a workaround which is to log instead of quarantine.

It would be helpful to have the errors from the Windows Application Event log.  You can then search the KB for those errors to see if they are known issues: http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?pag...

Here are some known issues:


Unscannable error "Scan Engine Error: CSAPI DEC result 0x11. Decomposer failed to open the container" when scanning PPS or PPT files

PowerPoint Documents Called Unscannable by Symantec Mail Security for Microsoft Exchange (SMSMSE) 6.5.5 with Decomposer Result 0x11

If the error messages/codes are not documented we would like to get samples of the files.  If we can reproduce the issue we can submit them to the Engineering group and get improvements in the scanning capabilities in later versions. 

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Hello and thank you for your

Hello and thank you for your answer.

Well, since i had the option to only log the messages that are unreadabble, i don't have the message on quarantine so i can't see if it's gettind damaged or not.

Viewing the Event Viewer from the server, the error message i'm getting is:

 

The attachment "filename.pdf" located in message with subject "subject name", located in username/Sent Items has violated the following policy settings:

 

Scan: Auto-Protect
Rule: Unscannable File Rule
The following actions were taken on it:
The attachment "filename.pdf" was Logged Only for the following reason(s):
Scan Engine Error.  CSAPI DEC result: 0xA. A malformed container is detected.
 
And sending the same email on Gmail to our company, it even get delivered, creating an NDR on Gmail:
 
Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 552 552 MS-Office file containing VBA macros found inside of the email (state 18).
 
Any help?
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So both Symantec and Google

So both Symantec and Google see issues with these files. Can you explain what leads you to believe that these are false reports? It sounds like the files are broken before we even see them.

Exchange only hands us a copy of the attachment, so if we don't take any actions, we don't touch the file but tell Exchange to deliver as normal.

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Well, we've downloaded the

Well, we've downloaded the files from our Gmail account direclty to the computer and they worked fine, no issues whatsoever. They open well and they do not appear to be broken. That's why i say that the files are fine and they work well.

They only get unreadable when they pass by our Exchange server and only the log option selected.

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Can you send me a sample of the PDF?

It looks like this should be have been addressed in 6.5.5: PDF Files Marked Unscannable by Symantec Mail Security for Microsoft Exchange (SMSMSE) 6.5 or higher

But maybe there are still instances of issues.  If you send me a sample I can see if I can reproduce the issue.

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I'm sending one copy of one

I'm sending one copy of one of the files giving me trouble as an attachment.

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DuarteAna_Mar2011.pdf 25.9 KB
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Unfortunately Acrobat Reader cannot open the file

I get the following error when I try to open it.

 

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Hello. Well, that file is the

Hello.

Well, that file is the one download via our e-mail server after passing the Exchange server and Symantec protection. That's the same error it's giving to us.

I'm attaching the one downloaded via Gmail account.

Thank you.

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DuarteAna_Mar2011.pdf 25.9 KB
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The second file DuarteAna_mar2011.pdf scans fine in my lab

I did not get any scanning errors.  I looked at the differences between the files in a hex editor.  I can see that the second file DuarteAna_mar2011.pdf is a valid PDF file.  However the first file just contains NULLs the whole file. 

If you turn of SMSMSE services and pass the file through exchange to a mailbox are you able to open it?  I would be very surprised if SMSMSE is changing the contents of the file as that is not something it does.

If you are still having an issue I would open a support case and someone can walk through the issue with you in a webex and troubleshoot.

 

Ben

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I have an update on the

I have an update on the situation.

I've tested sending the original e-mail from Gmail to our internal e-mail accounts without the DOC files and we received the e-mail with all the PDF's working fine!

I can say for sure now that we are having troubles with the doc files, making impossible to decode the files that come after that one.

Any thoughts why this could happen? Do you want me to send a copy of the file?

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I would lean toward

I would lean toward suspecting a firewall scanning smtp traffic

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What do you mean? A scan from

What do you mean? A scan from my internal firewall or from my ISP firewall?

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A firewall that scans traffic

A firewall that scans traffic coming in on port 25. Most firewalls have this as an option and I have seen several of them cause issues like this when they detect something they don't like in the file and strip it out.

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Sure send along the information

Please include the file and the Windows Application Event log that shows the specific error message when the file is scanned.

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So, when i send an e-mail

So, when i send an e-mail with all the attachements, DOC and PDF files, i receive this error on Windows Application Event log:

 

The attachment "filename.pdf" located in message with subject "subject name", located in username/Sent Items has violated the following policy settings:
 
 
 
Scan: Auto-Protect
Rule: Unscannable File Rule
The following actions were taken on it:
The attachment "filename.pdf" was Logged Only for the following reason(s):
Scan Engine Error.  CSAPI DEC result: 0xA. A malformed container is detected.
 
Also, on Gmail, i receive this message:
 
Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 552 552 MS-Office file containing VBA macros found inside of the email (state 18).
 
I have no issues whatsoever when i only send the PDF files as attachments.
 
I've also put as attachment of this message one of the DOC files sent on this e-mail.
 
Thank you.
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DuarteAna_Mar2011.doc 114.5 KB
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Issue

To rule SMS for Exchange out of the problem I'd probably configure an SMTP client like(Outlook Express) to send a mail with a working copy of the attachment directly to the Exchange server and see what comes through to the user mailbox.  If you can replicate the issue I'd then report to Support and get them to follow the same steps.

Kevin

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I was able to send the DOC file without scanning errors

In my lab I was able to send the DOC file without errors through Exchange with SMSMSE.

As others have mentioned it may be possible that other software is changing the attachments before they get to SMSMSE.  One way to tell is to quarantine the email on unscannable.  Then release the attachment from quarantine.  Then try to open it.  If you can't open it then the file is corrupt.  And it was likely corrupted before it got to SMSMSE.

You can open a support case and we can help you track this down.

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The problem is that when i

The problem is that when i try to send the files via Gmail to our internal e-mail address, i always get a message like the one displayed before and the e-mail don't even leave the Gmail inbox.

Is it possible that SMSE coulde be blocking this even before arriving my internal inboxes?

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My guess is that the email rejection is not coming from SMSMSE

There is probably something else blocking it before it gets to SMSMSE.

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It is very clear that SMSMSE

It is very clear that SMSMSE is ignoring the files, the error message explicitly states that.

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I've finally found the

I've finally found the problem.

I had our internal firewall scanning all SMTP traffic, blocking MS Office files with macros.

I disabled our firewall on SMTP traffic and making SMSE the only one scanning that information and we received the full e-mail without any problem.

Thank you for all your help!

Best regards.