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Upgrade SAV to SEP 11.0.6300.803 (AV&AS only): Firewall turned on ?

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  • 1.  Upgrade SAV to SEP 11.0.6300.803 (AV&AS only): Firewall turned on ?

    Posted Jun 24, 2011 12:25 AM

    So recently we upgraded quite a number of clients from SAV to SEP RU6 MP3 (AV&AS component only), somehow the Windows Firewall get turned on automatically after 1st reboot?

    OS: Windows Server 2003 SP2

    Default Firewall status : OFF

    Firewall services startup: Automatic

     

    Is there any Windows log which state which program has enabled the Firewall? Obviously we suspect it's the SEP....

     

    regards

     



  • 2.  RE: Upgrade SAV to SEP 11.0.6300.803 (AV&AS only): Firewall turned on ?

    Posted Jun 24, 2011 12:42 AM

    It used to in earlier versions but not now; After the first reboot do you see network threat component of SEP activated ? 

    http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH97986&locale=en_US

    when you create  the package make sure there is no firweall policy is applied to that group.

    even if NTP is not installed , just appliying fw policy to group used to cause some issue.



  • 3.  RE: Upgrade SAV to SEP 11.0.6300.803 (AV&AS only): Firewall turned on ?

    Broadcom Employee
    Posted Jun 24, 2011 12:43 AM


  • 4.  RE: Upgrade SAV to SEP 11.0.6300.803 (AV&AS only): Firewall turned on ?

    Posted Jun 24, 2011 06:17 AM

    Hi Rafeeq,

    We're not able to see SEP NTP status after the first reboot..

    The client itself is not local.... we installed SEP remotely via RDP...

     

    Anyway from what i understand SEP with AV&AS only component won't change anything at Windows Firewall setting nor service... i do not think we applied any FW policy to the group.. will double check on that..



  • 5.  RE: Upgrade SAV to SEP 11.0.6300.803 (AV&AS only): Firewall turned on ?

    Posted Jun 24, 2011 06:21 AM

    Hi Pete,

    There's no domain policy to turn on Windows Firewall in our environment as far as i know...

    Is there any other factor that we should be looking at?



  • 6.  RE: Upgrade SAV to SEP 11.0.6300.803 (AV&AS only): Firewall turned on ?

    Posted Jun 24, 2011 06:36 AM

    One more thing, do uninstalling SAV will make Windows turn on the Firewall?

    Any documentation on this?

     

    Thank you.



  • 7.  RE: Upgrade SAV to SEP 11.0.6300.803 (AV&AS only): Firewall turned on ?

    Posted Jun 24, 2011 07:22 AM

    Uninstalling SAV will not enable Firewall.Disable Windows Firewall from GPO so that it doesn't turn on automatically.



  • 8.  RE: Upgrade SAV to SEP 11.0.6300.803 (AV&AS only): Firewall turned on ?

    Posted Jun 26, 2011 11:58 PM

    Vikram,

     

    Your solution is viable. But why would we disabled the Windows Firewall when in our case it seems like SEP who turned it on...

    Is there any log that we can check to further check and verify this?

     

    Im curious if this issue coming from SEP bug/design? Had you ever saw people talking about this before?



  • 9.  RE: Upgrade SAV to SEP 11.0.6300.803 (AV&AS only): Firewall turned on ?

    Posted Jun 27, 2011 02:06 AM

    Did  you install using Acive directory; ?

    check the event viewer; it should have an entry for sep installed.see if it indeed disabled firewall (on/off)



  • 10.  RE: Upgrade SAV to SEP 11.0.6300.803 (AV&AS only): Firewall turned on ?

    Posted Jun 27, 2011 06:33 AM

    lol.... the Support acutally informed us that it's new enhancement in SEP since RU6 MP1?

    He explained that starting from this version any SEP without NTP component will have Windows Firewall turned ON automatically...

     

    Refer fix id below:

    Windows Firewall is always disabled by SMC service

    Fix ID:1992008

    Symptom:The Windows Firewall is disabled even though a policy is in place that dictates it to be enabled.

    Solution:If Symantec Endpoint Protection Firewall is disabled in a location, the Windows Firewall will be turned on. If Symantec Endpoint Protection Firewall is enabled in a location, the Windows Firewall will be turned off.

    http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH103087



  • 11.  RE: Upgrade SAV to SEP 11.0.6300.803 (AV&AS only): Firewall turned on ?

    Posted Jun 27, 2011 09:22 PM

    So... did anybody realise or agree with this?



  • 12.  RE: Upgrade SAV to SEP 11.0.6300.803 (AV&AS only): Firewall turned on ?

    Posted Jun 27, 2011 10:07 PM

    Hi ,

        It is true , i agree . One more point , it is an exception in windows server 2003 , windows server 2003 R2 even the firewall is off , the windows firewall / Internet connection sharing service will be running . 



  • 13.  RE: Upgrade SAV to SEP 11.0.6300.803 (AV&AS only): Firewall turned on ?

    Posted Jun 29, 2011 06:17 AM

    I think they should put this on a KB, what stated in the fix is kinda explicit.

    Imagine you just upgrade a server client from SAV to SEP remotely, you'll realiase that you're in a bit of trouble after the reboot as u're not able to remote back....  = ='



  • 14.  RE: Upgrade SAV to SEP 11.0.6300.803 (AV&AS only): Firewall turned on ?

    Posted Jul 04, 2011 12:52 AM

    Anyone else have concern/experience on this?

    Will GPO Firewall rule have priority over SEP settings?



  • 15.  RE: Upgrade SAV to SEP 11.0.6300.803 (AV&AS only): Firewall turned on ?

    Posted Jul 04, 2011 06:25 PM

    Hi ,

       The SEP firewall have more priority than GPO firewall rule .



  • 16.  RE: Upgrade SAV to SEP 11.0.6300.803 (AV&AS only): Firewall turned on ?

    Posted Jul 05, 2011 05:20 AM

    Hi Optimus,

     

    Did you test this yourself? Is there any documentation on this?

     

    Thank you!



  • 17.  RE: Upgrade SAV to SEP 11.0.6300.803 (AV&AS only): Firewall turned on ?

    Posted Jul 05, 2011 01:21 PM

    Hi,

     THere is no documnetation on this ...



  • 18.  RE: Upgrade SAV to SEP 11.0.6300.803 (AV&AS only): Firewall turned on ?

    Posted Jul 05, 2011 09:35 PM

    Hmm.. i dunno but what is theorical reasoning of this?

    Is it because SEP firewall policy is 'local' it would have priority over GPO?

     

    Anybody else have experince on this? thanks!



  • 19.  RE: Upgrade SAV to SEP 11.0.6300.803 (AV&AS only): Firewall turned on ?

    Posted Jul 07, 2011 10:11 PM

    Back to the firewall part..

    Ok somehow i did not agree the explanation by the support..... he said that it's a normal Windows behaviour to check and find for any active firewall... if it find it's turned off, it will turn it on?

    Refer below:

     

    ....the test performed has proved that SEP installed with NTP will not turn on the Windows firewall on restart
    >However if installed without NTP, it is a normal behavior of windows that the firewall will turn on by itself
    >Explained that Windows will look for any active firewall that is installed, however when no firewall is installed it will turn on the default firewall of windows

     

    Is this true?