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I'd request SVS users to post and share the default excludes that they configure in all or most new layers.
As Scott already mentioned, Global Excludes are coming in next SVS release candidate, these'll probably be the ones that you'll configure at one place with the new SVS release.
Default Excludes
Folder Exlcusions:
[_B_]PERSONAL[_E_]
[_B_]DESKTOP[_E_]
[_B_]HISTORY[_E_]
[_B_]CACHE[_E_]
[_B_]COOKIES[_E_]
[_B_]TEMP[_E_]
I also exclude specific file extensions for each application layer using excludecopy & excludegen.
BSuggs
Really interesting
Really interesting information.
Thanks
Recommended global exclude
I recommend to use the global excludes on the c: drive and if available the d: drive.
That will take all data out of the layer. In the new SVS there will be a option to create global excludes as Scott already mentioned, and then it will be easy to create these.
regards
Erik
Regards
Erik
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Sorry for the silly
Sorry for the silly question, what is the correct steps to exclude all data in the D: disk ?
Thanks and best regards
Exclude data for the D: drive
In the current version you have to go to the exclusions for each virtualized application to exclude the entire d: disk.
In the new version that will be released, you can create a global exclude for all apps at once.
I will post a technical document how to create the exclusions soon.
Regards
Erik
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Erik
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Global Excludes Question
I understand the idea of global exclusions but why would you exclude the entire C: drive.
You will be saving your data but you will also be possibly leaving a lot of unnecessary files that you will never need. It would make for a very unclean uninstall.
Updated:
It's very possible I misunderstood the previous statement.
BSuggs
What do global excludes do?
The idea behind global excludes is to ensure that the data that you create with the software that is virtualised is not staying in the layer.
If you have Word virtualized, and you are not using excludes, the data (your letters and memos) stays in the layer, and after resetting the layer the data is gone.
When you have Word and another program virtualized, and you have a exclude for Word, all the Word documents can get stored in the other layer that is including the data with the .doc extension.
To make sure that you always know where your data is, you use global excludes.
I'm very happy that Randy cook programmed the global excludes.
This is giving me a better and much safer way to get tough on my data.
regards
erik
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Regards
Erik
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Dinamiqs is the home of VirtualStorm (www.virtualstorm.org)
Not Really Needed...
I won't be using the global excludes.
Think about this, you have an application that has an INI file in its folder, and that saves your settings. Or your application saves something in the [APPDATA] folder.
Then you want your settings in your layer.
If you are going to use a global exclude, you won't have these settings in your layer.
I've experienced that most of the applications make changes in their directory.
So every time you export your layer and import it on a new computer you have to make all those settings again.
And for the Office example, are you really going to save your documents in the application folder?
Global Excludes are more for the ones who don't really know what they are doing, and looking for an easy way out, but will be disappointed when they export the layer and use it on a new computer.
I would advise "Easy Excluder", read the document explaining how to approach excludes.
Kind Regards, Starf0x
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Frank Bastiaens
Senior Technical Consultant
Vanderlet B.V.
Careful, Please
Ref: "Global Excludes are more for the ones who don't really know what they are doing... "
Many customers who understand very well how SVS works have elected to use excludes. Global excludes were implemented in SVS 2.1 based in feedback from these customers.
Customers use excludes to keep data -- not application components and settings -- out of application layers. This is exactly what they are for. Since SVS doesn't yet provide easy portability of data layers, and since excludes can now be global, it's a great option that meets the requirements of many. Altiris wants to provide maximum flexibility and let customers select the approach that is best for their environment.
Scott Jones
Product Manager
Altiris, Inc.
Hmmm...
I agree that customers can use Global Excludes.
But they then have to ensure that the desktop environment is a global standard.
This means that these settings are only valid if the desktop environment is closed down for the user.
I myself am supporting a customer who doesn't have those restrictions, and in that environment Global Excludes can cause a lot of incidents, and those incidents are of course for me to solve ;)
Please forgive my previous comment, it was only my own personal opinion.
Kind Regards, Starf0x
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Frank Bastiaens
Senior Technical Consultant
Vanderlet B.V.
You're completely right
Starf0x, You are right. I use the easiest way myself.
I don't use excludes at all, because I write my documents to a UNC path. Writing to a UNC path is always getting out of the layer.
The settings are stored in the layer, the apps are stored outside.
That is the easiest way for companies.
Regards
erik
Regards
Erik
www.DinamiQs.com
Dinamiqs is the home of VirtualStorm (www.virtualstorm.org)
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