Sorry iptables wasn;t letting traceroute work;
[root@leia ~]# traceroute server-16.tower-178.messagelabs.com
traceroute to server-16.tower-178.messagelabs.com (85.158.139.19), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 6d7b6503.lon.100tb.com (109.123.101.3) 0.400 ms 0.524 ms 0.693 ms
2 83.170.70.233 (83.170.70.233) 0.850 ms 83.170.70.237 (83.170.70.237) 1.256 ms 1.320 ms
3 lag-109.ear2.London2.Level3.net (212.187.139.153) 0.604 ms 83.170.70.130 (83.170.70.130) 0.941 ms lag-109.ear2.London2.Level3.net (212.187.139.153) 0.879 ms
4 lag-109.ear2.London2.Level3.net (212.187.139.153) 1.338 ms 1.083 ms *
5 * * MESSAGELABS.ear1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net (213.19.197.38) 7.206 ms
6 unknown-46-226-55.bb.symantec.net (46.226.55.99) 7.532 ms MESSAGELABS.ear1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net (213.19.197.38) 7.364 ms 7.386 ms
7 unknown-46-226-55.bb.symantec.net (46.226.55.99) 7.649 ms unknown-46-226-55.bb.symantec.net (46.226.55.191) 7.688 ms unknown-46-226-55.bb.symantec.net (46.226.55.189) 7.628 ms
8 mail178.messagelabs.com (85.158.139.19) 7.573 ms unknown-46-226-55.bb.symantec.net (46.226.55.191) 7.832 ms mail178.messagelabs.com (85.158.139.19) 7.598 ms