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  • 1.  SEP not catching Malware

    Posted Nov 12, 2014 01:31 AM
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    hello all ,   we have recently deployed FireEye {Advanced Persistent Threat} Web MPs solution. It has reported that our network is infected with latest malwares;  number of Laptop/Desktops are infected with these malwares which is creating call backs to their CnC {Command & Control} servers.

    Moreover, those laptop/desktop have installed latest SEP 12.1.4 with updated definition. Would appreciate, you please let me know what course of action should we adopt to clean/fix our endpoints from these malwares. 

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  • 2.  RE: SEP not catching Malware

    Posted Nov 12, 2014 01:37 AM

    You can submit submission file

    http://www.symantec.com/security_response/submitsamples.jsp

    Using Symantec Help (SymHelp) Tool, how do we Collect the Suspicious Files and Submit the same to Symantec Security Response Team

    https://www-secure.symantec.com/connect/articles/using-symantec-help-symhelp-tool-how-do-we-collect-suspicious-files-and-submit-same-symante



  • 3.  RE: SEP not catching Malware

    Posted Nov 12, 2014 01:40 AM

    Run the symhelp and submit report to symantec security.

    How to run the Threat Analysis Scan in Symantec Help (SymHelp)

    Article:TECH215519  |  Created: 2014-03-03  |  Updated: 2014-07-10  |  Article URL http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH215519
     


  • 4.  RE: SEP not catching Malware

    Posted Nov 12, 2014 01:47 AM

    James thanks for your reply but doesn't SEP IPS component usually detects the malicious network activity or botnets in the network ? 



  • 5.  RE: SEP not catching Malware

    Posted Nov 12, 2014 01:49 AM

    The problem is that Fireeye can detect the presense of malcious malware and activity on the infected machines but why isn't SONAR or even IPS detecting and catching it ? 



  • 6.  RE: SEP not catching Malware

    Posted Nov 12, 2014 01:50 AM

    The list of malwares that is attached with the post, doesn't Symantec already have signatures for these threats in their database and can detect them and block appropriately ? 



  • 7.  RE: SEP not catching Malware

    Posted Nov 12, 2014 01:55 AM

    see this

    Scanning a file with a competitor's antivirus program detects a virus, but scanning with Symantec Endpoint Protection does not

    Article:TECH98929  | Created: 2000-01-06  | Updated: 2014-02-14  | Article URL http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH98929


  • 8.  RE: SEP not catching Malware

    Posted Nov 12, 2014 02:31 AM

    any more information on this ? I need to run SymHelp tool on the affected machines ans then uploas the result/diagnostics to Symantec Support for analysis ? 



  • 9.  RE: SEP not catching Malware

    Posted Nov 12, 2014 03:00 AM

    You can scan and check the result.



  • 10.  RE: SEP not catching Malware

    Posted Nov 12, 2014 03:02 AM

    Running a full virus scan on the computer ? or running a scan via SymHelp Tool ?  regards



  • 11.  RE: SEP not catching Malware

    Posted Nov 12, 2014 03:03 AM

    symhelp tool.



  • 12.  RE: SEP not catching Malware
    Best Answer

    Posted Nov 12, 2014 06:29 AM

    These posts are all well and good but they don't address being proactive. What are you doing to be proactive and not reactive to this?

    Do you have all the components enabled and fully utilized? Are they not set at just the defaults? SEP does a good job but it won't catch everything so being able to utilize fireeye is a nice extra layer which allows you to get those machines cleaned. Don't forget fireeye is pretty advanced. Are you following best practices and recommendations?


    Security Response recommendations for Symantec Endpoint Protection 12.1 settings

    http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH173752

    Security Best Practice Recommendations

    http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH91705

    Symantec Endpoint Protection – Best Practices

    http://www.symantec.com/page.jsp?id=stopping_malware



  • 13.  RE: SEP not catching Malware

    Posted Nov 12, 2014 06:53 AM

    Yes all components are installed , the problem with fireeye is that it does not provide remediation for this



  • 14.  RE: SEP not catching Malware

    Posted Nov 12, 2014 07:57 AM

    Correct. It only does detection.

    That's fine that they're installed but how are the components configured, more aggressive?

    Do you use application and deivce control, system lockdown?



  • 15.  RE: SEP not catching Malware

    Posted Nov 12, 2014 09:38 AM

    they are configured moderately standard default AP policies are configured system lockdown is not in place. 



  • 16.  RE: SEP not catching Malware
    Best Answer

    Posted Nov 13, 2014 07:59 AM

    Hi Outrageous,

    Thanks for the post.  Network monitoring tools like the one you mention can be a great benefit to an organization.  They can provide excellent leads toward identifying infected computers, suspicious traffic, and so on.

    One consideration: that's a different vendor's product, so has different criteria about what traffic is considered malicious/suspicious.  Traffic that is from what many vendors would consider Potentially Unwanted Applications gets flagged by some of these network monitoring tools: Symantec is often aware of those programs, but they do not meet our criteria for being called malicious.  An example: connections to streaming sports video sites, sites that host gaming/gambling software downloads, etc might be flagged as "unwanted/block" by some network monitoring products but intentinally ignored by SEP.

    Definitely look into the endpoints which are highlighted by that tool, and run the SymHelp with Threat Analysis Scan there.  Submit any files that are considered suspicious by Symantec's tool.

    Here are some good recomendations on how to tune SEP for advanced security:    

    Security Response recommendations for Symantec Endpoint Protection 12.1 settings
    Article URL http://www.symantec.com/docs/TECH173752

    Hope this helps!

    Mick
     



  • 17.  RE: SEP not catching Malware

    Posted Nov 13, 2014 08:21 AM

    Please go thru the links I posted. You may need to make a few adjustments.



  • 18.  RE: SEP not catching Malware

    Posted Nov 13, 2014 09:54 AM

    Thanks all for your replies.

     



  • 19.  RE: SEP not catching Malware

    Posted Nov 14, 2014 10:51 PM

    I think we are skirting around the issue here, really!

    SEP is an Antivirus product, isn’t it? :-)

    SEP (for that matter any AV) alone will NOT protect your network 100%.

    Antivirus "is dead," says Brian Dye, Symantec's senior vice president for information security.

    Read this:http://online.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303417104579542140235850578

     

    FireEye (or similar products) is exactly what you want to give that level of insight. Towards the end of the above article, there is mention of FireEye and the infamous Target security breach……… read and weep, that’s all we can do if you think about how foolish Target was even after being warned by Fireeye.

    And of course, the old New York Times hack by Chinese, where Symantec had detected and quarantined only one of the 45 malicious files used by attackers over a three-month period.

    Defence-in-depth is what going save us.....if at all that's possible....